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<blockquote data-quote="Ludus" data-source="post: 6390477" data-attributes="member: 6696396"><p>In my group's session, the governor told the party (all first-level PCs) that the dragon was attacking solders on the roof, encouraged the PCs to help in the fight, and ran up there himself.</p><p></p><p>Now, every player in my group is a D&D veteran. We just started with 5e and aren't familiar with any changes that Mearls et al. made to monsters, but we figured that in any edition, first-level PCs had no chance against a very large, flying dragon using its breath weapon with disturbing regularity.</p><p></p><p>As for the governor, we thought he was straight daft for (1) allowing the solders to be on roof in the first place and (2) running up there himself.</p><p></p><p>But the PCs went to the roof because that's what the players thought the PCs would do as good-aligned heroes. The moment the PCs arrived, it was immediately clear that the rooftop situation was a fiasco.</p><p></p><p>One PC, an outspoken dwarf, attempted to persuade the governor to order the soldiers to leave the roof. "This is madness!" he cried. The governor was not persuaded, and the PC tried to stealthily knock him out so command would pass to the red-bearded dwarf, who the PC thought would have more sense.</p><p></p><p>The PC was halfway successful. The governor was knocked out, but one of the soldiers noticed. The PC ran over to Redbeard and (after some doing) persuaded him to order the soldiers to leave the roof.</p><p></p><p>While this was happening, another PC was shooting arrows at the dragon, and a third was healing soldiers. The dragon was still flying around when everyone left the roof. (The consequences for knocking out the governor? We'll never know because the PC died later in the episode.)</p><p></p><p>I considered the rooftop encounter to be a fair success for the party, in that we avoided a TPK and saved some soldiers from the governor's foolishness. What I'm wondering now, however, is whether it would a success under HotDQ as written (in terms of encounter-based XP awards). My group is using milestones, so I don't know.</p><p></p><p>If HotDQ awards XP only if the PCs drive away the dragon by attacking it and inflicting enough damage... well, I'd find that troubling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ludus, post: 6390477, member: 6696396"] In my group's session, the governor told the party (all first-level PCs) that the dragon was attacking solders on the roof, encouraged the PCs to help in the fight, and ran up there himself. Now, every player in my group is a D&D veteran. We just started with 5e and aren't familiar with any changes that Mearls et al. made to monsters, but we figured that in any edition, first-level PCs had no chance against a very large, flying dragon using its breath weapon with disturbing regularity. As for the governor, we thought he was straight daft for (1) allowing the solders to be on roof in the first place and (2) running up there himself. But the PCs went to the roof because that's what the players thought the PCs would do as good-aligned heroes. The moment the PCs arrived, it was immediately clear that the rooftop situation was a fiasco. One PC, an outspoken dwarf, attempted to persuade the governor to order the soldiers to leave the roof. "This is madness!" he cried. The governor was not persuaded, and the PC tried to stealthily knock him out so command would pass to the red-bearded dwarf, who the PC thought would have more sense. The PC was halfway successful. The governor was knocked out, but one of the soldiers noticed. The PC ran over to Redbeard and (after some doing) persuaded him to order the soldiers to leave the roof. While this was happening, another PC was shooting arrows at the dragon, and a third was healing soldiers. The dragon was still flying around when everyone left the roof. (The consequences for knocking out the governor? We'll never know because the PC died later in the episode.) I considered the rooftop encounter to be a fair success for the party, in that we avoided a TPK and saved some soldiers from the governor's foolishness. What I'm wondering now, however, is whether it would a success under HotDQ as written (in terms of encounter-based XP awards). My group is using milestones, so I don't know. If HotDQ awards XP only if the PCs drive away the dragon by attacking it and inflicting enough damage... well, I'd find that troubling. [/QUOTE]
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