Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How We Beat the HD, HotDQ, Spoilers
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6394832" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>So anyone not intuiting this obscure bit of knowledge is not paying attention?</p><p></p><p>Got it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or, not go into a burning town with a dragon flying over it at low level to begin with. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It shows nothing of the kind. Just because you read the module and you know this as a DM does not mean that the players are going to intuit this. A creature's actions do not necessarily dictate its thoughts or its motivations.</p><p></p><p>There could be several reasons why he does not get involved:</p><p></p><p>1) The townsfolk are beneath him, or</p><p>2) He wants everyone to run to the keep so that he does not have to track them down individually to kill them, or</p><p>3) He wants kobolds to die for some obscure reason, such as a power struggle in the cult perhaps, or</p><p>4) Although his perception is supposed to be high, he doesn't notice PCs sneaking through the town and killing guys on his team.</p><p></p><p>Who knows why the dragon does what he does? Certainly not the PCs. And saying that the players are not paying attention if they do not figure out what is going on is a bit unfair. They did not read the module. You did.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So this is why they are setting the town on fire, because they do not want the town destroyed? And how does this prevent the dragon from killing PCs and NPCs without destroying the town. It does not need its breath weapon to destroy anything in that town. It could fly down and kick the snot out of anything. And with a directed narrow breath weapon like lightning, it could even do so with its breath weapon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The entire Greenest scenario seems off. The dragon does not try to kill them. They are expected to attack a dragon. The half dragon does not kill them (or is at least not supposed to). The NPC guards cannot hurt the dragon. The governor has his guards go out on the parapets which is basically suicide. The cultists want to loot the place first, but set it on fire anyway. The low level PCs are just supposed to waltz into an invaded town with a dragon flying overhead. It's just so way out there and implausible.</p><p></p><p>For a 5E flagship adventure, it seems subpar and forced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6394832, member: 2011"] So anyone not intuiting this obscure bit of knowledge is not paying attention? Got it. Or, not go into a burning town with a dragon flying over it at low level to begin with. :lol: It shows nothing of the kind. Just because you read the module and you know this as a DM does not mean that the players are going to intuit this. A creature's actions do not necessarily dictate its thoughts or its motivations. There could be several reasons why he does not get involved: 1) The townsfolk are beneath him, or 2) He wants everyone to run to the keep so that he does not have to track them down individually to kill them, or 3) He wants kobolds to die for some obscure reason, such as a power struggle in the cult perhaps, or 4) Although his perception is supposed to be high, he doesn't notice PCs sneaking through the town and killing guys on his team. Who knows why the dragon does what he does? Certainly not the PCs. And saying that the players are not paying attention if they do not figure out what is going on is a bit unfair. They did not read the module. You did. So this is why they are setting the town on fire, because they do not want the town destroyed? And how does this prevent the dragon from killing PCs and NPCs without destroying the town. It does not need its breath weapon to destroy anything in that town. It could fly down and kick the snot out of anything. And with a directed narrow breath weapon like lightning, it could even do so with its breath weapon. The entire Greenest scenario seems off. The dragon does not try to kill them. They are expected to attack a dragon. The half dragon does not kill them (or is at least not supposed to). The NPC guards cannot hurt the dragon. The governor has his guards go out on the parapets which is basically suicide. The cultists want to loot the place first, but set it on fire anyway. The low level PCs are just supposed to waltz into an invaded town with a dragon flying overhead. It's just so way out there and implausible. For a 5E flagship adventure, it seems subpar and forced. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How We Beat the HD, HotDQ, Spoilers
Top