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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6402198" data-attributes="member: 2011">How is it ever a win?The NPC dies. Loss.The PC gets knocked unconscious. Loss.The PC dies. Loss.THe NPC dies. Oh no wait, that cannot happen. Even when the PCs kill him, he is either not dead, or saved, or replaced with a clone.It seems like lose lose to me. It seems like heavy handed DM (actually designer) manipulation.And yes, I get the whole "the villagers are saved". Woo hoo! The PCs are heroes (or at least after the one PC wakes up, if he wakes up). It just seems like a hollow victory.Yeah, I've heard that there are quite a few "editing mistakes".The question is, where are the other PCs at this point? Are the PCs on the parapets? Are they on the ground? How far away is the duel? People have posted different ranges for the duel.Even if the other PCs can get close after the fight, what happens if there is no PC with the Spare the Dying, hence, no longer range stabilization? Or has a Heal potion? Or misses the DC 10 Medicine check to stabilize?Playing the rules as written in the PHB, or even as per the module, could fairly easily result in a dead PC depending on the situation and dice rolls.Yes, the DM can hand wave that away. But he shouldn't have to.</blockquote>