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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8107628" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>Strength and Dexterity are opposed stats in 5e.</p><p></p><p>Strength governs strength-based attacks (most melee and thrown ranged), and lets you use certain kinds of heavy armor.</p><p></p><p>Dexterity governs dexterity-based attacks (finesss, some thrown, most ranged), and makes light and medium armor viable.</p><p></p><p>Strength is pretty much useless for non-melee weapon users.  Dex isn't.</p><p></p><p>About the only reason you'd want, in a charop, +1 to both from an ASI is if you have 13 starting dex and are a strength build and are wearing medium armor.</p><p></p><p>But then, in a point-buy situation, you'd probably be better off raising your dex by 1, lowering your strength by 1, and using both ASIs on strength, because 1 point of strength is <strong>more expensive</strong> than 14 in dex.</p><p></p><p>Now, in a standard array or rolled build that 13 dex is more common in a strength-build.  But it is still a bit niche.</p><p></p><p>That is how antagonistic strength and dexterity is.</p><p></p><p>It is sort of like int/cha or int/wis; there aren't really much of a reason to bump both, charop wise.  So a feat that offers +1 to both isn't as good as an ASI.</p><p></p><p>Well, you could build a grappler around this feat; expertise athletics.  Everything else is just there to make that option a bit cheaper than a 1 level rogue dip or the nearly full feat cost of prodigy.</p><p></p><p>If you aren't a grappler, I'd say go elsewhere for a feat option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8107628, member: 72555"] Strength and Dexterity are opposed stats in 5e. Strength governs strength-based attacks (most melee and thrown ranged), and lets you use certain kinds of heavy armor. Dexterity governs dexterity-based attacks (finesss, some thrown, most ranged), and makes light and medium armor viable. Strength is pretty much useless for non-melee weapon users. Dex isn't. About the only reason you'd want, in a charop, +1 to both from an ASI is if you have 13 starting dex and are a strength build and are wearing medium armor. But then, in a point-buy situation, you'd probably be better off raising your dex by 1, lowering your strength by 1, and using both ASIs on strength, because 1 point of strength is [b]more expensive[/b] than 14 in dex. Now, in a standard array or rolled build that 13 dex is more common in a strength-build. But it is still a bit niche. That is how antagonistic strength and dexterity is. It is sort of like int/cha or int/wis; there aren't really much of a reason to bump both, charop wise. So a feat that offers +1 to both isn't as good as an ASI. Well, you could build a grappler around this feat; expertise athletics. Everything else is just there to make that option a bit cheaper than a 1 level rogue dip or the nearly full feat cost of prodigy. If you aren't a grappler, I'd say go elsewhere for a feat option. [/QUOTE]
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