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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9513128"><p>From my other thread here: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/dragon-dilemma-opinions-advice-all-are-welcome.707979/" target="_blank">D&D 5E - Dragon Dilemma - Opinions? Advice? All are welcome!</a></p><p></p><p>Tonight is our session so see what happens, but after the discussion on Group Checks it got me wondering a chicken-egg situation.</p><p></p><p>Consider my session tonight outlined in the Dragon Dilemma thread. I have one expert at Steatlh (Scout with +11, who will cast <em>invisibility</em> if he sees the dragon approaching--very likely!), one mediocre (Healer at +2, with advantage, and will use <em>guidance</em> if he sees the dragon approaching), one horrible (Tank +0 with disadvantage).</p><p></p><p>However, the passive Perception is 21 for the dragon, normally making the Tank "unhide-able". But the Tank has Wisdom (Survival) +4, so I am allowing him to roll that in an attempt to "hide" in natural surroundings given the hunter-experience from his background. It seems more appropriate given the situation than using Stealth for him. It is a little bit of a stretch, but otherwise he is a non-factor and will automatically fail vs DC 21.</p><p></p><p>Other factors might come up before the actual rolls, of course. So how will this play out? I don't know. As I see it I have three options:</p><p></p><p>A) I use the dragon's passive Perception 21. The three players will roll (@ +11 most likely with advantage, +2 with advantage and a possible +1d4, and finally +4) vs the DC 21.</p><p></p><p>B) The PCs use passive scores for their attempts: the Scout will then have a 21, the Healer a 17 (+1d4 possibly), and the Tank 14. I will roll the dragon's perception at +11.</p><p></p><p>C) Contested rolls all-around! Everyone rolls. Dragon at +11, Scout +11 with likely advantage, Healer +2 with advantage and likely +1d4, Tank +4.</p><p></p><p>D) Passive scores all-around. Dragon finds them except maybe if the Healer rolls a 4 on the d4 for <em>guidance</em>. If ties go to the PCs, that would give the "win" to the PCs.</p><p></p><p>I also have to consider who "wins ties" in these cases as contested checks?</p><p></p><p>Then, there is the choice of Group Check (two "wins" by the party indicates avoidance) or Individual (one "fail" by the party indicates discovery!).</p><p></p><p>So, thoughts? Opinions?? I know how I am seeing this working out, but I like to see how others interpret it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9513128"] From my other thread here: [URL="https://www.enworld.org/threads/dragon-dilemma-opinions-advice-all-are-welcome.707979/"]D&D 5E - Dragon Dilemma - Opinions? Advice? All are welcome![/URL] Tonight is our session so see what happens, but after the discussion on Group Checks it got me wondering a chicken-egg situation. Consider my session tonight outlined in the Dragon Dilemma thread. I have one expert at Steatlh (Scout with +11, who will cast [I]invisibility[/I] if he sees the dragon approaching--very likely!), one mediocre (Healer at +2, with advantage, and will use [I]guidance[/I] if he sees the dragon approaching), one horrible (Tank +0 with disadvantage). However, the passive Perception is 21 for the dragon, normally making the Tank "unhide-able". But the Tank has Wisdom (Survival) +4, so I am allowing him to roll that in an attempt to "hide" in natural surroundings given the hunter-experience from his background. It seems more appropriate given the situation than using Stealth for him. It is a little bit of a stretch, but otherwise he is a non-factor and will automatically fail vs DC 21. Other factors might come up before the actual rolls, of course. So how will this play out? I don't know. As I see it I have three options: A) I use the dragon's passive Perception 21. The three players will roll (@ +11 most likely with advantage, +2 with advantage and a possible +1d4, and finally +4) vs the DC 21. B) The PCs use passive scores for their attempts: the Scout will then have a 21, the Healer a 17 (+1d4 possibly), and the Tank 14. I will roll the dragon's perception at +11. C) Contested rolls all-around! Everyone rolls. Dragon at +11, Scout +11 with likely advantage, Healer +2 with advantage and likely +1d4, Tank +4. D) Passive scores all-around. Dragon finds them except maybe if the Healer rolls a 4 on the d4 for [I]guidance[/I]. If ties go to the PCs, that would give the "win" to the PCs. I also have to consider who "wins ties" in these cases as contested checks? Then, there is the choice of Group Check (two "wins" by the party indicates avoidance) or Individual (one "fail" by the party indicates discovery!). So, thoughts? Opinions?? I know how I am seeing this working out, but I like to see how others interpret it. [/QUOTE]
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