How's this sound for a class hybrid? Broken or Not

[harmyn]

Here is my random 3.5 reluctance thought from the weekend. Tell me what you think of it.

You take the monk class, strip away all abilities they gain as they advance (save for fast movement, AC bonus, WIS bonus to AC, and their Unarmed Strike damage advancement) and replace all those powers with clerical spell casting equal to half their level (i.e. an 8th level monk would have the spells of a 4th level cleric).

What do you think?

 

[Nyaricus]

okay, a few (quick) considerations from me. on a point to point basis, heres what i think:

same HD, same BAB = even

monk gets limited profs+unarmed strike damage increase, clerics get simple weapons (cleric favoured, except for unarmed)

cleric gets 2/3 good saves, monk gets 3/3 good saves = not even (monk favoured)

cleric gets 2+int skills, monk gets 4+int mod skills = not even (monk favoured)

clerics get heavy armour, monks get wis > AC and AC bonus = even (enough)

clerics get domains, undead turning/rebuking, full spellcasting, monks get fast movement (cleric favoured)

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solution: give d8 HD, average BAB, 3/3 good saves, monks increase in AC(wis/class bonus), no amrour/shield profs, monk weapon profs, no undead turning, one domain, unarmed damage increase, fast movement (change progression though, maybe max of +30 [as in base speed 60 max from this class]), have class skills as the ones from the monk and cleric, and keep skills known as 4_int mod, and keep spellcasting to what you suggested > caster level = 1/2 level of cleric. Oh, and NO flurry of blows ability.

personally, id never let him in my game, but he is even (enough) to let in, in general. So what is the concept for this guy anyways? Holy-Ninja?

 

[Enamel_32]

If you can, I would suggest you look at the sacred fist PrC from the complete divine book. It's almost exactly what you're looking for, if a PrC would suffice.

Personally, I'd say that you should exchange the monk abilities for the cleric's, but without the domain spells.

 

[harmyn]

If you can, I would suggest you look at the sacred fist PrC from the complete divine book. It's almost exactly what you're looking for, if a PrC would suffice.

Personally, I'd say that you should exchange the monk abilities for the cleric's, but without the domain spells.

That's about what I was going for in the spell exchange category. But as for the Sacred Fist, well I am about fed up with the bazillion and one prestige classes, most of which involve characters being at least 7th or 8th level (many see 10/11 as ideal) before you start taking them. I like the idea of variant classes so I can use more interesting and different things against characters below 10th level. That's why I thought the mystic cleric would be a nice little twist.

 

[Nyaricus]

why dont you just take the Sacred fist and extend it into a 20 level class? no comments on my original build, but thats okay. just trying to help.