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<blockquote data-quote="borringman" data-source="post: 9434249" data-attributes="member: 7040288">It sounds more like you've had crappy DMs, and their crappiness has led you to build up resentment against realists, when there's nothing realistic about the situations you're describing.Just because a DM says they're being realistic, it could just mean they're a jerk.&nbsp; In fact, that's common, so I get it.&nbsp; But please cool off a bit.&nbsp; We're not the DM(s) you unfortunately had to deal with, so while you have my sympathies, that ends at using us as strawman proxies for this joker.&nbsp; It's disingenuous and closing your mind.Normal sleep is weird now?&nbsp; This conversation is going places.Like James and his DM, you sound more sour that martials are screwed over in D&amp;D overall, and taking out your frustrations on realists.&nbsp; This is a strange hill to die on, because in normal situations (you're wide awake and armored) winning this quibble is worth nothing.&nbsp; It won't fix the fundamental problems with martials.The other thing is that this complaint is oddly myopic, as if &quot;realism&quot; is only used for this one thing as a cudgel to &quot;get martialy&quot;.&nbsp; We're talking about sleep, but what about cold weather?&nbsp; RAW, you could be soaked through in summer clothes in a hurricane-force blizzard but you're perfectly fine if it's one degree above 0 F (-17 C).&nbsp; That's. . . more than a little ridiculous.&nbsp; Well, if we were to &quot;real it up&quot;, almost all armor has thick padding or is thick padding, so I'd give you cold weather resistance for free.&nbsp; Wizard robes, not so much.&nbsp; There isn't an anti-martial conspiracy here being run under a false flag of &quot;realism&quot;.**We are at 150,000 members and growing.&nbsp; We are Legion.&nbsp; My faithful followers, we will soon be ready for Phase Theta:&nbsp; Armor Hit Locations!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="borringman, post: 9434249, member: 7040288"] It sounds more like you've had [I]crappy[/I] DMs, and their crappiness has led you to build up resentment against realists, when there's [I]nothing[/I] realistic about the situations you're describing. Just because a DM [I]says[/I] they're being realistic, it could just mean they're a jerk. In fact, that's common, so I get it. But please cool off a bit. We're not the DM(s) you unfortunately had to deal with, so while you have my sympathies, that ends at using us as strawman proxies for this joker. It's disingenuous and closing your mind. Normal sleep is weird now? This conversation is going places. Like James and his DM, you sound more sour that martials are screwed over in D&D overall, and taking out your frustrations on realists. This is a strange hill to die on, because in normal situations (you're wide awake and armored) winning this quibble is worth nothing. It won't fix the fundamental problems with martials. The other thing is that this complaint is oddly myopic, as if "realism" is only used for [I]this one thing[/I] as a cudgel to "get martialy". We're talking about sleep, but what about cold weather? RAW, you could be soaked through in summer clothes in a hurricane-force blizzard but you're perfectly fine if it's one degree above 0 F (-17 C). That's. . . more than a little ridiculous. Well, if we were to "real it up", almost all armor has thick padding or [I]is[/I] thick padding, so I'd give you cold weather resistance for free. Wizard robes, not so much. There isn't an anti-martial conspiracy here being run under a false flag of "realism".* [SIZE=3]*We are at 150,000 members and growing. We are Legion. My faithful followers, we will soon be ready for Phase Theta: Armor Hit Locations!![/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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