D&D 5E Human Revenant question

OniDaimyo

Villager
AND Undead cannot be healed by cure wounds. Undead are healed by NEGATIVE energy and hurt by positive. Thus Cure Wounds? Hurts all undead unless it says otherwise. The Undying in Eberron for example? They are a different kind of undead. They are fueled by positive energy and as such are good guys and good aligned and are healed by the normal spells. So that's probably another reason why? Undead are probably evil because they are made with negative energy. Good aligned or even neutral undead are super rare as to be like the only one of their kind. So yeah I would honestly call the PC Revenant something else entirely. Call them like "The Returned" "Risen" ect (Risen are a Deadlands reference. in Deadlands are pretty cool but have a lot of downsides, such as they CAN be rotting and obviously undead its a option though not requirement. They do have a evil spirit that sometimes takes them over and makes them do very bad things and the PC usually doesnt remember these things.)

So IMO the UA people should have really put far more thought into the Revenant as a PC. They should of named it something else, made distinctions between the MM and this Revenant and probably clarified it's type doesnt turn to undead, if it rots, needs to eat, sleep, breathe, use the potty lol...
 

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Caliban

Rules Monkey
AND Undead cannot be healed by cure wounds. Undead are healed by NEGATIVE energy and hurt by positive. Thus Cure Wounds? Hurts all undead unless it says otherwise. The Undying in Eberron for example? They are a different kind of undead. They are fueled by positive energy and as such are good guys and good aligned and are healed by the normal spells.

That was true in 3e, but not in 5e. Positive and negative energy aren't in 5e. The closest thing is necrotic and radiant energy, and they don't have alignments.

In 5e, undead aren't harmed by healing spells or healed by inflict spells or necrotic spells.
 


Caliban

Rules Monkey
Where does it specifically state that? Is that in MM or DMG?

Where does it specifically mention Positive or Negative Energy in the 5e rules? And there are very few alignment based spells or abilities in 5e. For example, the Protection from Evil and Good spell affects creature types, not alignment. Paladin's have a "Divine Sense" that detects specific types of creatures - not alignments.

As for undead not being harmed by healing spells - read any of the Cure Wounds or Healing Word spells - they specifically state they have no effect on Undead or Constructs.

The Inflict Wound spell now simply does necrotic damage - no language about it healing undead. And the Harm spell is now a ranged spell that causes a disease that inflicts necrotic damage. Nothing about healing undead.

There are no universal traits or atttributes that key off a monster's type now - they are all spelled out in each creatures stat block. So being "Undead" doesn't grant any specific abilities or immunities not mentioned in their stat block. (Spell or powers may have specific effects vs undead, but that will be specified in the spell or ability).

For example - most undead are Immune to poison (it's in their stat block), but it's not a universal trait that all Undead have. Specifically - Vampires are not immune to poison.
 


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