Human with Regeneration 1. What do you think the ECL should be?

[Green Knight]

I'm wondering what the ECL of a human with Regeneration 1 would be so I decided to ask you all for your input.

So WHY am I thinking of making a human with the Regeneration ability?

Look at my ID name and my sig.

I've been wanting to re-create the Green Knight for D&D for a LONG time, now! I was able to do it, once, with certain Birthright blood abilites, from the Blood Enemies supplement. But Regeneration fits better.

Not as if I'll need it anytime soon. Just something good to know. So what's your opinion of a human with Regeneration 1? What do you think his ECL should be? Thanks.

 

[Crothian]

Regeneration is a very good ability. What types of attacks do normal damage for your character concept? I think that's the key to determining the ecl. If you go with just acid and foire, I think ecl +2 would be about right.

 

[Anabstercorian]

More details. What does normal damage to you? Because SOMETHING has to.

 

[Soldarin]

Probably ECL +1. Getting knocked out and burried alive will kill even a troll (suffocation is never subdual damage, same thing with starvation I think).

 

[Archer]

I think ECL 2. You will never die unless your whole party is defeated and that essentially never happens. Never dying must be worth at least 2 levels. You can be totally gung ho and disregard hp and no one ever needs to heal you because you heal 10 pts of damage per minute. Traps become meaningless because you'll just recover from them after a brief rest.

Regeneration will have a persistent benefit across every level and will easily compensate for any weakness in combat ability or hp total because you can always fight all out in every encounter.

 

[XCorvis]

Don't use regeneration. Regeneration means you take subdual damage from all attacks except those specified. A troll takes normal damage from fire and acid and heals everything else at a rate of 1/round. Unless you coup de grace with fire or acid, or deplete all it's HP using fire or acid, it will come back to life. Even severing it's head is not an instant kill (unless you use fire or acid). But then, you might want that...

ECL +2 or +3, due to being extremely hard to kill. What damage types would it be vulnerable to? If you were vulnerable to all forms of energy (fire, acid, lightning, cold and sonic) and maybe force and pure magic (ie magic missile) then I could see it being a +2.

Otherwise use Fast Healing 1, which means you take normal damage from everything, you just heal it quickly. If you are dropped below -10, you die. This I would make ECL +1 or +2, leaning towards the high end of things for both of them.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Otherwise use Fast Healing 1, which means you take normal damage from everything, you just heal it quickly. If you are dropped below -10, you die. This I would make ECL +1 or +2, leaning towards the high end of things for both of them.

Yeah, but would that work for the Green Knight?

 

[handforged]

For those who don't know, the Green Knight was beheaded and came back to life, presumably by the powers of Morgan le Fay. The only way to defeat him is to show your honor and chivalry. He is not supposed to die. I don't know what CR that is as he could be defeated at any level or at none depending on the characters.

~hf

 

[Green Knight]

Could've sworn I turned on e-mail notification...

Even severing it's head is not an instant kill (unless you use fire or acid). But then, you might want that...

Well, yeah, that's sort of the point.

And FYI, the Green Knight wasn't defeated. Gawain agreed to take his stroke and the Green Knight spared him.

The Green Knight apparently had no vulnerabilities, but nobody made any effort to find a way to kill him permanently, besides Gawain cutting off his head at the beginning of the story. Fire and acid sounds good, though. Hell, maybe that's why he's called the Green Knight? Because he's like a troll, which is green. Maybe Morgan Le Fay used troll bits in the magic she employed to give him his regenerative ability? So assuming his vulnerabilities are Fire and Acid, what should his ECL be?

 

[Crothian]

The Green Knight apparently had no vulnerabilities, but nobody made any effort to find a way to kill him permanently, besides Gawain cutting off his head at the beginning of the story. Fire and acid sounds good, though. Hell, maybe that's why he's called the Green Knight? Because he's like a troll, which is green. Maybe Morgan Le Fay used troll bits in the magic she employed to give him his regenerative ability? So assuming his vulnerabilities are Fire and Acid, what should his ECL be?

I'd go with ECL +2. It's a very good ability and one where the weakness is not readily apparent.

As a DM I'd be very wary about allowing this in a game because Fire and Acid Resistance is not that hard to come by. Ultimately, of course, it does depend on the Campaign World, the Player, and the DM. Will you make him a straight Fighter or a Paladin? Any idea of a Prestige Class that woiuld fit the concept?