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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8002183" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>What I'd want is basically just a PHB with new Subclasses thrown in that pay lip service to classic class names from D&D's past as well as reprinting some fan favorite spells from Elemental Evil and SCAG, maybe tweaking the Feats line up a bit (finally giving us a Fighting Style granting feat). They could say a lot of room by not giving the Wizard EIGHT FRIGGIN' subclasses. Few ideas I had:</p><p></p><p>Barbarian:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Totem Barbarian with the Warden who has transformative rages with various effects and some Druid utility for out of combat stuff</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New take on a simple Barbarian to replace the Berzerker with a new name</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Possible Psionic Barbarian (contageous rage aura) if including Psionic classes</li> </ul><p></p><p>Bard:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep College of Lore</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace College of Valor with something else (College of Sword Reprint? Skald?)</li> </ul><p></p><p>Cleric:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Light, Nature and War Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Tempest with a Sea Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Trickery with Shadow or Moon Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Add another odd ball domain that's never been covered</li> </ul><p></p><p>Druid:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Circle of Land with another spellcastery Circle</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Circle of the Moon</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Add a Circle that trades Wild Shape uses for a summoned creature like the Wildfire one</li> </ul><p></p><p>Fighter:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reprint Cavalier to replace Battlemaster, or introduce a new 'Sentinel' subclass with marking mechanics</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Champion with a simple Weapons Master who gets different passive bonuses depending on weapons property he uses</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Eldritch Knight unless you include Psionic and thus replace it with Psi Knight</li> </ul><p></p><p>Monk:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Acrobat Monk instead of Way of Shadows</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replacement Magic Monk for Way of the Four Elements (Sun Soul Reprint?)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Open Hands</li> </ul><p></p><p>Paladin:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Oath of Protection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I don't know what else would need to stay or change</li> </ul><p></p><p>Ranger:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Includes the alt-class feature, keep the Hunter</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New take on Beastmaster with a different name using the Beast of Land and Beast of Sky concepts</li> </ul><p></p><p>Rogue:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep the Thief</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Assasin with like... Shadow Dancer or something shadowy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Arcane Trickster unless Psionic is included, and thus the Soul Knife is there (though I guess Soul Knife could replace Assassin)</li> </ul><p></p><p>Sorcerer:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'd give the explicit option to use CON as a casting stat...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Replace Wild Magic with a better 'randomized' soul...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep the Dragon soul but with more support in the Spell List for the other elemental damages</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psionic Soul added</li> </ul><p></p><p>Warlock:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Include Pact of the Talisman</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Fiend and Fey patrons</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Return Star Pact instead of GOO</li> </ul><p></p><p>Wizard:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep Illusionist</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Put in a completed Scribe</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Combat minded generalist with Implement masteries</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Beguiler? Or is that more Bard?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cut the others</li> </ul><p></p><p>That's just random naughty word I'm spitballing of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8002183, member: 7015698"] What I'd want is basically just a PHB with new Subclasses thrown in that pay lip service to classic class names from D&D's past as well as reprinting some fan favorite spells from Elemental Evil and SCAG, maybe tweaking the Feats line up a bit (finally giving us a Fighting Style granting feat). They could say a lot of room by not giving the Wizard EIGHT FRIGGIN' subclasses. Few ideas I had: Barbarian: [LIST] [*]Replace Totem Barbarian with the Warden who has transformative rages with various effects and some Druid utility for out of combat stuff [*]New take on a simple Barbarian to replace the Berzerker with a new name [*]Possible Psionic Barbarian (contageous rage aura) if including Psionic classes [/LIST] Bard: [LIST] [*]Keep College of Lore [*]Replace College of Valor with something else (College of Sword Reprint? Skald?) [/LIST] Cleric: [LIST] [*]Keep Light, Nature and War Domain [*]Replace Tempest with a Sea Domain [*]Replace Trickery with Shadow or Moon Domain [*]Add another odd ball domain that's never been covered [/LIST] Druid: [LIST] [*]Replace Circle of Land with another spellcastery Circle [*]Keep Circle of the Moon [*]Add a Circle that trades Wild Shape uses for a summoned creature like the Wildfire one [/LIST] Fighter: [LIST] [*]Reprint Cavalier to replace Battlemaster, or introduce a new 'Sentinel' subclass with marking mechanics [*]Replace Champion with a simple Weapons Master who gets different passive bonuses depending on weapons property he uses [*]Keep Eldritch Knight unless you include Psionic and thus replace it with Psi Knight [/LIST] Monk: [LIST] [*]Acrobat Monk instead of Way of Shadows [*]Replacement Magic Monk for Way of the Four Elements (Sun Soul Reprint?) [*]Keep Open Hands [/LIST] Paladin: [LIST] [*]Keep Oath of Protection [*]I don't know what else would need to stay or change [/LIST] Ranger: [LIST] [*]Includes the alt-class feature, keep the Hunter [*]New take on Beastmaster with a different name using the Beast of Land and Beast of Sky concepts [/LIST] Rogue: [LIST] [*]Keep the Thief [*]Replace Assasin with like... Shadow Dancer or something shadowy [*]Keep Arcane Trickster unless Psionic is included, and thus the Soul Knife is there (though I guess Soul Knife could replace Assassin) [/LIST] Sorcerer: [LIST] [*]I'd give the explicit option to use CON as a casting stat... [*]Replace Wild Magic with a better 'randomized' soul... [*]Keep the Dragon soul but with more support in the Spell List for the other elemental damages [*]Psionic Soul added [/LIST] Warlock: [LIST] [*]Include Pact of the Talisman [*]Keep Fiend and Fey patrons [*]Return Star Pact instead of GOO [/LIST] Wizard: [LIST] [*]Keep Illusionist [*]Put in a completed Scribe [*]Combat minded generalist with Implement masteries [*]Beguiler? Or is that more Bard? [*]Cut the others [/LIST] That's just random naughty word I'm spitballing of course. [/QUOTE]
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