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5E Hypothetical 50th Anniversary Core Rulebooks

What will we see for core rulebooks for the 50th anniversary?

  • Nothing - no new core rulebooks of any kind.

    Votes: 9 11.3%
  • 5.1 - almost entirely cosmetic, maybe with a few minor tweaks.

    Votes: 36 45.0%
  • 5.2 - as above, but more tweaks and some new options.

    Votes: 16 20.0%
  • 5.3 - as above but more, and possibly a major adjustment or two.

    Votes: 14 17.5%
  • 5.4 - as above but with more significant and noticeable revision.

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • 5.5 - as above but with significant revision, some of it systemic.

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • 6E - a new edition of the game with major revision and possibly significant departure from 5E.

    Votes: 6 7.5%

  • Total voters
    80

Mercurius

Legend
I'm embroiled in lots of discussion around the idea of a hypothetical 50th anniversary core rulebook set in 2024, which would also be the 10th anniversary of 5E. Rather than re-hash or muddy the waters with my own take (if you're interested, check out this thread) I'll keep preliminary thoughts succinct and use this space to give more detail on what I mean by the various options.

Nothing - No new versions of the core rulebooks, at least not in 2024 (doesn't mean they won't do something else for the anniversary).
5.1 - Reprints with new art, covers, a 50th anniversary foreword of some kind, maybe a re-worked index, possibly a very minor tweak or two, and/or rules addition of some kind (e.g. a new sub-class or two, possibly minor revision of an existing class). No structural or systemic change.
5.2 - As above, with a few minor tweaks and additions (e.g. new versions of old classes, maybe a new class, minor adjustments to monster stats, etc). Minimal or very minor and limited structural change, no systemic change.
5.3 - As above, but with more minor tweaks, possibly a significant one or two. Minor and limited structural change, no systemic change.
5.4 - As above, but more significant adjustments. Definite structural changes, possibly very limited and minor systemic change. A minor revised version.
5.5 - As above, with structural changes and some systemic revision, but still recognizable as 5th edition. A true revised version (e.g. 3.5 to 3.0).
6E - A new edition of the game, with significant systemic changes to whatever degree.

By "structural" I mean individual components with the game system, such as a class or sub-system. By "systemic" I mean something that has wide effect, or a major sub-system that effects the entire game (e.g. feats, skills, how spell-casting works, etc).

As always, pick the option that you think best fits your prediction. The emphasis should be on what you think will happen, not what you want to happen or think should happen. Discuss that in the comments. I've also added the option to make two choices, in case you're on the fence. For example, maybe you think it will be Nothing or 5.1 at most, or maybe you're all or nothing and think it will be Nothing or 6E.

The one caveat is that it seems clear that no matter what they do, they definitely won't call it "5.x" and probably wouldn't even call it "6E," even on the off chance that they went that route. So the point being, you're not voting for the name--these are just placeholders--but the underlying degree of change that they represent.
 

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Marandahir

Crown-Forester
Structural but not systemic.

They'll incorporate the revisions to the Variant Class Features UA, maybe include a few more "best-of" archetypes from Xanathar's, include all the latest errata, and give the books a sweet new special cover that's different from the holiday 2018 covers so I'll have to buy them all over again.

Oh, and Aasimar & Eladrin in DMG will be changed to their VGM and MOT incarnations.

I'd LOVE for them to include Goblinoids and Orcs in the PHB as those are extremely popular races that show up in pretty much every game as an antagonist race, but I doubt they'll do so. If they did, I would expect the E:RLW/EGW stats for Orcs to show up, as opposed to the VGM version with racial penalties.
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
No new rulebooks for 5e, at least not specifically tied to the 50th anniversary. They'll do whatever they're gonna do at whatever time they're gonna do it, but I don't think the anniversary will play too heavily in their thinking.

But it wouldn't surprise me were they to re-release OD&D (1974) in some sort of anniversary packaging.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester
No new rulebooks for 5e, at least not specifically tied to the 50th anniversary. They'll do whatever they're gonna do at whatever time they're gonna do it, but I don't think the anniversary will play too heavily in their thinking.

But it wouldn't surprise me were they to re-release OD&D (1974) in some sort of anniversary packaging.
I missed out on the 40th Anniversary box set of OD&D (I have the special editions of the 1st and 2nd edition AD&D books released subsequently). Can't find it anywhere (I guess people who got it are holding onto dear life). I would love it if that box set was re-released for those of us who missed it the first time.
 



Raith5

Adventurer
I will be ready for something new in 4 years. Either a 5.5 or 6E.

I would like it to be close to 5e but I think I would like to see a few 5e game elements re thought (especially feats) and high level play more well thought out.
 

ccs

40th lv DM
I've been predicting 6e in 2024 for several years now in various threads. So that's what I voted for.

I do not agree with the rest of the polls description of 6e. It won't be a major departure from 5e. It'll make some tweaks/improvements & it'll generally encourage you to go 6e, but all of your 5e stuff will be compatible with it.
So why not just call it 5.5e? Because that's stupid sounding. It was stupid when they did it back in 3e/3.5 & it'd be at least as stupid in 2024.
 



My suggestion is a reprint-remake of the older editions, with the same pictures.

I regret me not haven't bought the 2nd Ed in the 90's.

Who would buy a "vintage" edition? Wait a "product emplacement" in Netflix or Disney+.

If you publish a 1.5. then lot of players will would rather to await and they will not buy the 1.0.
 

I'd love for them to reissue the special covers at that time so I can get them for a reasonable price.
I'd like 5.2, mostly errata corrections or updates that got incorporated to later rules. Class and Monsters updated to more recent design philosophies.
 


Mercurius

Legend
As I said in the OP, I don't think they'd call any new revision or even a new edition anything but "D&D." But if they do come out with even microscopically altered core rulebooks, we'll be arguing to no end whether it is "5.1" or "5.2" or--the gods save us--"5.05."

I can't wait ;)
 

Mercurius

Legend
Through 45 votes, the average is 5.13. If the ENWorld hivemind is right, we'll see something slightly more than 5.1, but closer to that than 5.2.
 

Undrave

Hero
What I'd want is basically just a PHB with new Subclasses thrown in that pay lip service to classic class names from D&D's past as well as reprinting some fan favorite spells from Elemental Evil and SCAG, maybe tweaking the Feats line up a bit (finally giving us a Fighting Style granting feat). They could say a lot of room by not giving the Wizard EIGHT FRIGGIN' subclasses. Few ideas I had:

Barbarian:
  • Replace Totem Barbarian with the Warden who has transformative rages with various effects and some Druid utility for out of combat stuff
  • New take on a simple Barbarian to replace the Berzerker with a new name
  • Possible Psionic Barbarian (contageous rage aura) if including Psionic classes

Bard:
  • Keep College of Lore
  • Replace College of Valor with something else (College of Sword Reprint? Skald?)

Cleric:
  • Keep Light, Nature and War Domain
  • Replace Tempest with a Sea Domain
  • Replace Trickery with Shadow or Moon Domain
  • Add another odd ball domain that's never been covered

Druid:
  • Replace Circle of Land with another spellcastery Circle
  • Keep Circle of the Moon
  • Add a Circle that trades Wild Shape uses for a summoned creature like the Wildfire one

Fighter:
  • Reprint Cavalier to replace Battlemaster, or introduce a new 'Sentinel' subclass with marking mechanics
  • Replace Champion with a simple Weapons Master who gets different passive bonuses depending on weapons property he uses
  • Keep Eldritch Knight unless you include Psionic and thus replace it with Psi Knight

Monk:
  • Acrobat Monk instead of Way of Shadows
  • Replacement Magic Monk for Way of the Four Elements (Sun Soul Reprint?)
  • Keep Open Hands

Paladin:
  • Keep Oath of Protection
  • I don't know what else would need to stay or change

Ranger:
  • Includes the alt-class feature, keep the Hunter
  • New take on Beastmaster with a different name using the Beast of Land and Beast of Sky concepts

Rogue:
  • Keep the Thief
  • Replace Assasin with like... Shadow Dancer or something shadowy
  • Keep Arcane Trickster unless Psionic is included, and thus the Soul Knife is there (though I guess Soul Knife could replace Assassin)

Sorcerer:
  • I'd give the explicit option to use CON as a casting stat...
  • Replace Wild Magic with a better 'randomized' soul...
  • Keep the Dragon soul but with more support in the Spell List for the other elemental damages
  • Psionic Soul added

Warlock:
  • Include Pact of the Talisman
  • Keep Fiend and Fey patrons
  • Return Star Pact instead of GOO

Wizard:
  • Keep Illusionist
  • Put in a completed Scribe
  • Combat minded generalist with Implement masteries
  • Beguiler? Or is that more Bard?
  • Cut the others

That's just random shit I'm spitballing of course.
 
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Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
As I said in the OP, I don't think they'd call any new revision or even a new edition anything but "D&D." But if they do come out with even microscopically altered core rulebooks, we'll be arguing to no end whether it is "5.1" or "5.2" or--the gods save us--"5.05."

I can't wait ;)
To be clear, I just don't think the "5.1" option is really justified in being called anything more than 5.0. That's really just an edit, not any rules changes in any way, and is like how the core rulebooks have been edited with their indexes.

Honestly I don't expect any changes in the core books for the 50th. Maybe a new variant cover, but more likely they'll take some very classic adventure module and reprint it for 5E, like Castle Greyhawk itself (the original, not the abomination).
 

Mercurius

Legend
To be clear, I just don't think the "5.1" option is really justified in being called anything more than 5.0. That's really just an edit, not any rules changes in any way, and is like how the core rulebooks have been edited with their indexes.

Honestly I don't expect any changes in the core books for the 50th. Maybe a new variant cover, but more likely they'll take some very classic adventure module and reprint it for 5E, like Castle Greyhawk itself (the original, not the abomination).
I don't think WotC will call it anything but D&D, possibly with a "50th Anniversary" stamp or sticker. But we diehard fans? There will be discussion and debate.

But yeah, it could just be cosmetic changes (art, logo), a foreword of some kind, and the usual errata, none of which would justify it being 5.1. 5.1 might be added stuff, but no rules tweaks. 5.2 would be some kind of structural changes , albeit very minor (e.g. tweaked monster stats, revised classes, etc). I could see anything within that range.
 


A reedition with fixed errata is possible, but a 5.1 Ed could cause a littler equivalent of the edition wars. I suggest a reprint of older editions, or the 5th Ed with the layout of the old editions, like a retro or vintage version.
 

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