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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8286344" data-attributes="member: 5889">These statements contradict themselves. Almost every class has recieved at least 2 or more subclasses from the various splats. Therefore, its not possible to follow X +1 and allow all subclasses to remain.But the X + 1 seems clear enough, so I will use that.BardCreation - A really cool concept<s>Eloquence</s> - To me, the only thing really going for this is the penalty to saves, which is solid...but not enough to build a subclass around.<s>Glamour</s> - The top of the ones I'm dropping. Its seriously cool, but I can only have 3.Lore - The ultimate in flexible spellcasters, there are so many combos you can do with this, it single handedly sold the bard to my party.<s>Spirits</s> - Neat but overly complicated for what it is imo. I'd keep it if I could, but only 3!Swords - Ultimately can only keep 1 "battle" bard, and I think this fits the "selfish bard" theme best, who just want to use their powers on themselves to look like a badass.<s>Valor</s> - Sorry valor, there can be only 1.<s>Whispers</s> - Who doesn't want to play a faceless man? Its super cool, but for only 3 subclasses I will stick with more traditional bard concepts, and this ones a bit more out there.</blockquote>