D&D 4E I am confused about 4e Spellcasting. Please help.

[edbonny]

Another thing that is important: While you have 6 daily powers in your spellbook, those are grouped by level.

You should have 2 daily attack powers from 9th level, 2 from 5th level and 2 from 1st level. You must obey these "slots" while preparing your spells. So you can't choose to prepare both your 9th level spells and one 5th level spell.

The right way to prepare spells looks like that: For each "slot" (9th, 5th, 1st in your case) you look through the available powers in your spellbook (2 for you, 3 for wizards with the feat) and choose 1 until the next extended rest.

Wow - I did not know that. Wizards are very different from earlier editions. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Thank you all again.

 

[TimeOut]

Wow - I did not know that. Wizards are very different from earlier editions. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Thank you all again.

No problem and have fun!

 

[edbonny]

still wrong on some counts

You can only prepare one 1st level daily, one 5th level daily and one 9th level daily. You cannot prepare 2 9th level dailies and a 5th level daily.


Just like the daily, you can only prepare one 2nd level utility and one 6th level utility. You cannot prepare both of your known 6th level after an extended rest.

A chart in the PH would have been very useful in clearing up this confusion (for me at least). It makes sense the way you all here have explained it.

 

[Kaledor]

Piggy backing on the thread.
Has anyone seen a limit on the number of Rituals mastered?
I am assuming you can have as many as you can afford and hold in a spellbook (but you can only master a ritual of your level or lower).

So edbonny's 9th level wizard could have as many 1st through 9th level rituals as he could afford... right?

 

[Vempyre]

A chart in the PH would have been very useful in clearing up this confusion (for me at least). It makes sense the way you all here have explained it.

It's not in the PHB, but you can always use this :

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20080416a

 

[Vempyre]

Piggy backing on the thread.
Has anyone seen a limit on the number of Rituals mastered?
I am assuming you can have as many as you can afford and hold in a spellbook (but you can only master a ritual of your level or lower).

So edbonny's 9th level wizard could have as many 1st through 9th level rituals as he could afford... right?

Right

 

[kclark]

Just for the sake of clarity and completeness...
While the Daily and Utility spells you can prepare or know are limited by spell level, you could indeed prepare 2 5th level spells and 1 1st instead of 1 9th, 1 5th, and 1 1st, if you so desired.
i.e. you can fill a daily or utility slot with an appropriate level or lower spell.

 

[ravenight]

They should have made it clearer that you had "slots" of particular levels, I think. It seemed to me, from reading the book, that while I could follow the progression given in that chart (always having powers of the 3 highest levels I can use), I could also choose to take a lower level power instead. So, if I was 9th level, I'd be able to select a 1st, 5th and 9th or a 1st and 2 5ths, or 2 1sts and a 9th, etc. If that's true, though, then retraining should allow you to swap, e.g., 2 known 1st-level spells for 2 known 5th level ones (which might change you from being able to prepare 2 1st and 1 5th to being able to prepare 1 1st and 2 5th). But the FAQ says retraining only moves one spellbook power, and an answer to a question I asked WotC directly said that retraining couldn't alter the level of a power.

 

[kclark]

Yeah the retraining rules act kinda wonky on Wizard Spellbook spells.
I think the Paragon tier spell upgrade levels are where you really get to swap a low level spell for a higher level one.