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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6350368" data-attributes="member: 6689464">[MENTION=1465]Li Shenron[/MENTION] has already shed some light, but dragon sorcerer and wild sorcerer are very restrictive when they are too strong, I don't mind some draconic flavor but if it is too strong it overpowers the character concepts I usually like to play, and none of my characters so far has _turn into a monster_ as part of the class concept, and only a few have _isa screwy squirrel_ in their job description, and  many have used flavors like weather, celestial, elemental infernal and so on, wanting a sorcerer with less strong flavour alllows me to actually play the kind of sorcerer I want to.And calling any sorcerer not poisoned with strong flavor a wizard is an strawman, in my view a sorcerer is even more generic than a wizard, having  a vanilla sorcerer actually allows me to play the kind of stories I want to play and not the ones the designers want to allow. And no, no dnd wizard will ever work for me either.</blockquote>