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<blockquote data-quote="ghul" data-source="post: 3067485" data-attributes="member: 29901">Hi tx,Nice to hear from you again.&nbsp; While I very much enjoy the AD&amp;D tables, and would gladly run a game with them, my group is having fun the C&amp;C SIEGE engine, and so am I running it. I must, however, disagree with your assessment of C&amp;C being &quot;too 3eish&quot; as I find it exactly opposite thereof.&nbsp; The system is intuitive, with a core mechanic that applies to all situations, yet variable in that every character has a different set of primary and secondary attributes.&nbsp;&nbsp; Also, the difficulty of any situation (challenge class) is completely determined by the DM, arbitrarily, based on the DM's sense of logic and probablility in the given situation.&nbsp; Thus, the DM holds the power, and no two situations are necessarily alike.&nbsp; &quot;I want to direct my horse to charge forward and vault over the fence at the end of the corall,&quot; says the player of the knight.&nbsp; &quot;Okay,&quot; says the DM, &quot;give me a&nbsp; horsemanship check.&quot;&nbsp; The player makes the roll, but he has no idea what challenge class number the DM has assigned. He simply informs the DM how much he made or missed his target number by.No.&nbsp; My players will do as I tell them because I am the Dungeon Master and my power is absolute. I bend to the will of no one!&nbsp; Unless, of course, one of them would ever like to sit on my side of the screen and spell me, in which case I would expect exactly the same no-nonsense treatment.&nbsp; Revolting players! Bah!&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sorry, but I don't subscribe to such conspiracy theories, your smiley face notwithstanding.&nbsp; I think the Trolls are fellow gamers who are making ends meet and gaining a small piece of the pie due to an honest passion for the game. And I don't think they are out to actively convert folks.&nbsp; &quot;Convert or die!&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; People will come to C&amp;C on their own if and when they are looking to play something different and with a decent amount of the old-school feel.&nbsp; Some may be 3e players, some may not.I think OSRIC and C&amp;C can only help one another, as compatibility is high and both appeal to the same demographic. Only time will tell. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Presently, there seems to be quite a bit of folks who are going back to old-school gaming, or enjoying it for the first time, so I think the future is bright, despite that pen an paper games are challenged by a host of other entertainment forms these days.&nbsp; 4e would have to blow me away to make me spend any $$$ on it.Take care,--Ghul</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ghul, post: 3067485, member: 29901"] Hi tx, Nice to hear from you again. While I very much enjoy the AD&D tables, and would gladly run a game with them, my group is having fun the C&C SIEGE engine, and so am I running it. I must, however, disagree with your assessment of C&C being "too 3eish" as I find it exactly opposite thereof. The system is intuitive, with a core mechanic that applies to all situations, yet variable in that every character has a different set of primary and secondary attributes. Also, the difficulty of any situation (challenge class) is completely determined by the DM, arbitrarily, based on the DM's sense of logic and probablility in the given situation. Thus, the DM holds the power, and no two situations are necessarily alike. "I want to direct my horse to charge forward and vault over the fence at the end of the corall," says the player of the knight. "Okay," says the DM, "give me a horsemanship check." The player makes the roll, but he has no idea what challenge class number the DM has assigned. He simply informs the DM how much he made or missed his target number by. No. My players will do as I tell them because I am the Dungeon Master and my power is absolute. I bend to the will of no one! Unless, of course, one of them would ever like to sit on my side of the screen and spell me, in which case I would expect exactly the same no-nonsense treatment. Revolting players! Bah! I'm sorry, but I don't subscribe to such conspiracy theories, your smiley face notwithstanding. I think the Trolls are fellow gamers who are making ends meet and gaining a small piece of the pie due to an honest passion for the game. And I don't think they are out to actively convert folks. "Convert or die!" ;) People will come to C&C on their own if and when they are looking to play something different and with a decent amount of the old-school feel. Some may be 3e players, some may not. I think OSRIC and C&C can only help one another, as compatibility is high and both appeal to the same demographic. Only time will tell. ;) Presently, there seems to be quite a bit of folks who are going back to old-school gaming, or enjoying it for the first time, so I think the future is bright, despite that pen an paper games are challenged by a host of other entertainment forms these days. 4e would have to blow me away to make me spend any $$$ on it. Take care, --Ghul [/QUOTE]

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