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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5931454" data-attributes="member: 51942">If you're trying to do 14 hitpoints of damage on average (meaningful harm), then managing just 3 is not a success.This is the paradigm I'd use, and I think damage on a miss fits here perfectly.Also, I think the reasoning is a little backwards: I'd like to start off assuming the in-world occurence makes sense, not assuming some (pretty arbitrary) hit/miss distinction holds.  And as explained before, in-world, damage on a miss makes a lot of sense.It's hard to argue against this - it's pretty personal.  Killing minor critters with each swing doesn't strike me as an anticlimax; we're not talking about a climactic encounter in the first place, and in any case, the strong fighter simply stomping on weak foes is its own kind of climax.  I respect your opinion - it doesn't bother me, but as I said, that's personal.  Wouldn't it be enough just to ban the feat if you don't approve? That solution should be OK if it's not unbalanced since there'll be plenty of other viable options.I'm fairly positive it's not unbalanced; sure, against Kobolds its quite strong, but that's not likely a major issue.  In terms of damage output, it's probably somewhere between a +1 and a +2 bonus to damage rolls on hit.I don't think the feat really adds something particularly valuable to the game, so despite not really disliking it, I wouldn't shed any tears if it goes (with the aim of keeping a diverse set of players happy).I am a little worried that if even such a fairly harmless feat as this is dropped, 4e lovers will see it as evidence of disrespect for their chosen edition and therefore dislike 5e more. Thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />.</blockquote>

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