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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fifth Element" data-source="post: 5933351" data-attributes="member: 48135">Indeed, the system is not perfect nor will it be. But the more important point, I think, is that the system is abstract.One single feat has spawned thread after thread discussing the topic of  causing damage on an apparent miss, but no one seems to be bothered that you  can roll maximum damage after having *just* gotten through your  opponent's defences, and you can roll minimum damage when your  opponent's defences are a joke compared to your roll. Where is the believability in that?Why are there no threads dedicated to the fact that rolling damage separately from the attack strains the believability of the game? It couldn't just be because that's how it's always been done could it?With the Reaper feat, you have to determine the result of your "miss" before you can narrate the results of the attack. With any successful attack other than a crit, you have to determine the result of your damage roll before you narrate the result of your attack. You can't jump into narrating it based only on the result of the d20 roll, because you don't actually know how powerful your blow was yet.Facing an opponent with an AC of 12, you roll a 19 on the die for a total of say 23. It seems you've completely outclassed your foe on that one. And then you roll snake eyes for damage. Oops, turns out you didn't do as well as you thought. Or you could roll an 8 on the die and just barely hit the foe (apparently), but then you roll 2 sixes for damage. Turns out what should have been a glancing blow was really a massive strike.Similarly, you can't jump into narrating a Reaper attack based on the result of the d20 roll, because there's that damage to account for. If you say you swing over the creature's head, and yet cause damage, you'll look as silly as saying that you *just* got a glancing blow through your foe's defences, but then roll max damage and kill it in one shot.</blockquote>

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