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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dordledum" data-source="post: 5991362" data-attributes="member: 6690432">Thanks for chiming in all. I acknowledge that we could've done things a lot better and smoothly.  This is what I was trying to achieve. There was also E who is the DM, who is a too nice guy and didn't want to get messed up with it all. He has thanked me yesterday for asking Flumph (D) to leave. He acknowledged that the situation was getting out of hand. The orange vest analogy is pretty accurate as well. Nobody did anything, so I felt I had to step up. I tend to orange vest a lot. Even though I'm not the GM, I do plan all the gaming meetings, coordinate the communication etc. I do admit we as a group approached the issue wrong. It took about 8 months of bi-monthly gaming sessions before B and C indicated their issues with D. Just after F quit our gaming group (the guy who had introduced Flumph), they told the DM and me that they didn't wan't to play with Flumph anymore.  But they didn't tell him or act upon it. They assumed the DM would fix this. The DM said: "I don't see the problem, I'll stop inviting him, but when he asks to play, he's welcome." A few months later, he moved away, so we didn’t feel any action necessary at that time.  We did tell Flumph off when he did something we really didn't like on several occasions. He laughed everything away, and even when we told him we were serious, he thought we were joking. Some of their issues I personally never noticed before they spoke out.  I'll just give some examples of stuff I have to agree with where annoying, but to me were not worth booting the guy. To note, he played a Lawful Good City Guardsman, most of his actions weren’t very lawful or good<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When discussing in-game tactics and we all agreed on a plan. Upon execution, he tended to abandon these plans at first chance. This had had several severe in-game consequences (character deaths included, never his).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He always wanted to pick a fight with the NPCs. Always. Even when they are Archons and Angels.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He wanted lots of loot and xp, even for battles he did not participate in. And whined about it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He rewrote his character sheet before everytime we played. Changed his character name, stats, his abilities, everything except the fact that he still was the Lawful Good City Guardsman we new previously.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He made jokes nobody thought were funny, and didn’t get any of the jokes the rest of the group made.</li> </ul>These and other problems which I gathered B and C had with Flumph combined spoiled their evenings. They also said they just didn’t like the guy. When he was there the atmosphere soon got grimmy, so that started to spoil my evenings too. (Flumph however didn't notice).  My personal issue is that I actually still liked the guy, but felt this could not continue.</blockquote>

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