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<blockquote data-quote="Grover" data-source="post: 27698" data-attributes="member: 2401"><p>I think a lot of people are underestimating the difficulty of ignoring someone in combat, and the amount of damage someone who is ignored can do. On the other hand, I can see the point that a Great Wyrm red dragon is unlikely to consider a celestial badger enough of a threat to take his eyes off the 17th level rogue in front of him. So - while I don't think ignoring someone should be viable in most cases, I can see some situations in which it might make sense, so these are the rules I would use:</p><p>First - it is hard to ignore someone - doing so takes a successful concentration check, with the following difficulties:</p><p>10 - You believe there is no way the opponent could harm you: for example, and incorporeal creature being attacked by someone with a nonmagical weapon</p><p>20 - While they could, technically, harm you it is extremely unlikely - for example, a Very Old Dragon being attacked by a celestial badger</p><p>30 - They are an inferior opponent - for example, a fifth level fighter being attacked by a goblin</p><p>40 - They are as skilled as you are</p><p>50 - They are better than you - for example, a fifth level fighter being attacked by a tenth level fighter</p><p>60 - They could easily kill you in one blow - for example, a goblin being attacked by a tenth level fighter</p><p>In addition, if they do successfully damage you, you need to make a concentration check with a difficulty of 20 + twice the damage dealt to continue ignoring them.</p><p>If you are successful in ignoring them, then the following conditions hold:</p><p>The ignored opponent has no effect for considering flanking of other opponents.</p><p>Your Dex bonus to armor class is -5 against the ignored opponent</p><p>The ignored opponent can sneak attack you, if it is able, and you are subject to sneak attacks.</p><p>You automatically roll a 1 in any contested roll you make against the ignored opponent (for example - Disarm, Trip, Bull Rush)</p><p>You provoke an attack of oppourtunity from the ignored opponent.</p><p>You cannot direct any attacks against the ignored opponent.</p><p>Any attacks made by the ignored opponent are automatically critical threats, if you are subject to criticals.</p><p>I think that this house rule is a reasonable simulation of what should be the effect of ignoring an opponent.</p><p>Grover</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grover, post: 27698, member: 2401"] I think a lot of people are underestimating the difficulty of ignoring someone in combat, and the amount of damage someone who is ignored can do. On the other hand, I can see the point that a Great Wyrm red dragon is unlikely to consider a celestial badger enough of a threat to take his eyes off the 17th level rogue in front of him. So - while I don't think ignoring someone should be viable in most cases, I can see some situations in which it might make sense, so these are the rules I would use: First - it is hard to ignore someone - doing so takes a successful concentration check, with the following difficulties: 10 - You believe there is no way the opponent could harm you: for example, and incorporeal creature being attacked by someone with a nonmagical weapon 20 - While they could, technically, harm you it is extremely unlikely - for example, a Very Old Dragon being attacked by a celestial badger 30 - They are an inferior opponent - for example, a fifth level fighter being attacked by a goblin 40 - They are as skilled as you are 50 - They are better than you - for example, a fifth level fighter being attacked by a tenth level fighter 60 - They could easily kill you in one blow - for example, a goblin being attacked by a tenth level fighter In addition, if they do successfully damage you, you need to make a concentration check with a difficulty of 20 + twice the damage dealt to continue ignoring them. If you are successful in ignoring them, then the following conditions hold: The ignored opponent has no effect for considering flanking of other opponents. Your Dex bonus to armor class is -5 against the ignored opponent The ignored opponent can sneak attack you, if it is able, and you are subject to sneak attacks. You automatically roll a 1 in any contested roll you make against the ignored opponent (for example - Disarm, Trip, Bull Rush) You provoke an attack of oppourtunity from the ignored opponent. You cannot direct any attacks against the ignored opponent. Any attacks made by the ignored opponent are automatically critical threats, if you are subject to criticals. I think that this house rule is a reasonable simulation of what should be the effect of ignoring an opponent. Grover [/QUOTE]
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