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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 5203496" data-attributes="member: 807">I agree with Dr Ruminahaui and Dice4Hire on this one.prone is prone, true. And things that let you do things when prone aren't in question (such as powers/items that let you stand from prone as minor actions rather than move actions, etc)But when you have things that are reactions to becoming prone, I think the wording in the trigger about how you became prone becomes important.&nbsp; There are many ways to be made prone (by an enemy, by an ally, by self, by a hazard, by terrain, by falling, by being unconscious, etc).The fact that the greaves of fortunate falling specifies &quot;when you are knocked prone (including when you fall unconscious)&quot; kind of makes me think back to how this is exception based design and how specifics on triggers are important.They could have very easily said &quot;when you fall prone&quot; and accounted for each and every prone possibility and NOT needed that extra clause about falling unconscious.&nbsp; But instead they did not use that all encompassing (and clearer) phrase, opting instead for a lengthier more specific phrase as the trigger action.Thus, if I were the DM and this came up at one of my games, I'd say falling prone is not the same as being knocked prone.Anyway, just my take on it. YMMV.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fba827, post: 5203496, member: 807"] I agree with Dr Ruminahaui and Dice4Hire on this one. prone is prone, true. And things that let you do things when prone aren't in question (such as powers/items that let you stand from prone as minor actions rather than move actions, etc) But when you have things that are reactions to becoming prone, I think the wording in the trigger about how you became prone becomes important. There are many ways to be made prone (by an enemy, by an ally, by self, by a hazard, by terrain, by falling, by being unconscious, etc). The fact that the greaves of fortunate falling specifies "when you are knocked prone (including when you fall unconscious)" kind of makes me think back to how this is exception based design and how specifics on triggers are important. They could have very easily said "when you fall prone" and accounted for each and every prone possibility and NOT needed that extra clause about falling unconscious. But instead they did [u]not[/u] use that all encompassing (and clearer) phrase, opting instead for a lengthier more specific phrase as the trigger action. Thus, if I were the DM and this came up at one of my games, I'd say falling prone is not the same as being knocked prone. Anyway, just my take on it. YMMV. [/QUOTE]

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