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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fjw70" data-source="post: 6226887" data-attributes="member: 80924">As I have said before I think the thing that tordepoed 4e book sales the most was DDi.  Back before DDi the people I played with bought 4e books, well mainly the PHB.  But once DDi hit, especially the character builder, then it was a whole new game.  Suddenly the paper books were obsolete. With DDi your didn't even need a book to play the game. When you made your character with the CB and printed out the character sheet then everything you needed to play your character was on those sheets.  Ever power and magic item was completely described.On top of that you didn't even need your own account.  Just log into your friend's account and update your character a few minutes before the session and you were good to go.Then on top of that those that did have there own accounts didn't need to keep them at all time since the CB was usable offline and you only had to renew the account a couple times a year to get updates. This changed when the CB went to an online system only, except that the old offline CBs were still out there and clever fans still update it.All of this lead to lower sales then I am sure WotC expected.  And this is for the people that actually liked the game.  Then those that didn't like it stopped being consumers as well.</blockquote>