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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6229258" data-attributes="member: 48965">Or maybe because the name recognition of Dungeons and Dragons is such that if there is a game most likely to be sought out by a person with no rpg experience (say because they heard about it on Big Bang Theory, or Community, or any of the other numerous places the name Dungeons and Dragons pops up) this is it.  that seems alot more likely that someone who has no experience whatsoever with rpg's suddenly deciding to seek out Pathfinder with absolutely no guidance.  But... It couldn't have been that, could it? Naw! Pff! No way! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ... It has to be part of some conspiracy against 4e... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />EDIT: In fact let's look at this in a different light, answer these questions... How many starter sets did 4e have?  how many beginner boxes does Pathfinder have?  How many products are there to learn the basic rules, run a full game and/or create characters using essentials/4e core books?  How many are there for Pathfinder? (Edited for clarity)</blockquote>