I Have A Copy of Monster Manual 5.

[Jhaelen]

Also, Helium, Could you elaborate on "vapires (all)", the Deadborn vulture and the zombie form, and the Greenspwan zealot?

I'm not helium, but:
vapires = vampires, i.e.
The Black Duke - Vampire Knight-7 / Ronin-10
The Red Widow - Vampire Ninja-5 / Fighter-2 / Ghost-faced killer-8

What I'd like to know:
Burrow Root [14] & Demonthorn Mandrake [30] - these sound like plant creatures? Have these been omitted from the creatures-by-type list?

 

[Pielorinho]

But then, I think that's the reason you express your opinions so arrogantly in the first place, so . . .

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[green slime]

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Its the 'orrible text colours that get to me...

 

[Winterthorn]

Are Humans worse than Monsters? EEK!

Thoon Thrall Human Commoner-1

Hmm... rarely see Humans in any MM. So this brings a question to mind: the OD&D, D&D Basic, AD&D, AD&D 2nd all cited Humans (often under "Men") in their monster manuals, but the only core race not in the D&D 3rd Ed MM are Humans! Do Humans show up anywhere in MM3, MM4, or MM5 (other than as a templated critter or in a race book)? It seems strange, at a minimum for the sake of thoroughness, that Humans are not statted in a MM, while all other intelligent beings - yup, dwarves, elves, etc. - are! What's with that?

Not meaning to go off-topic too much, but reading this thread made me ask

@helium3: you noticed this? Thoughts as you look things over?

 

[Shroomy]

Hmmm, I just assumed that that Throon Thrall (say that five times fast!) was a template and the Throon Thrall Commoner 1 was just the example creature.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Hmmm, I just assumed that that Throon Thrall (say that five times fast!) was a template and the Throon Thrall Commoner 1 was just the example creature.

Me too.

 

[Razz]

Don't feel singled out. Anybody can get that kind of attention. They just have to go around stating opinions in a factual manner, and they'll wind up being challenged. And if that doesn't do the trick, they can always tut-tut the WotC design staff as if they were an unquestionable authority on the topics of sourcebook design and fanbase appeal.

Hey, everyone's opiniated. That's not what draws people to constantly correct the various inaccuracies and logical falacies that seem inherent to your criticisms. I suspect we'll see more threads from you about MMV, just like we did with MMIV. If past experience is any indicator, you'll say outlandish stuff like accuse DM's of being lazy for wanting statted-out monsters and suggest that if they don't have time to do it themselves they should just quit the hobby. You probably know better, but seem to crave the attention, and the fact that it's not the good kind of attention isn't important. And that is sad as well.

And, case in point, I've noticed quite a large number of people actually agreed with how I felt about MMIV, so it's obvious I was actually going somewhere with what I state rather than just starting flame wars purposefully. I don't randomly say things. I do back up what I feel and say about things and it's really just other people that take it very offensively. There's a lot of passionate gamers involved with D&D, me being one, but if anyone's paid any attention to my posts I've never jumped on another poster's back here, or anywhere, just to ride them out like some kind of rodeo. If anything, I'm the one being ridden everytime I say, heck, anything.

I also don't say things cause I "crave attention". I say them because that's exactly what I think of the situation. I've never singled anyone out EVER in my posts. They're very generalized and can apply to anyone, heck, even someone's dog who watches D&D sessions. I've noticed it's the ones who are somehow offended by what I say to start wars with me, despite how broadly generalized they are (which just singles them out as the subject of my topic with their remarks, so who is it that's exactly craving attention at that point?).

But having said all that....

It is creepy and inappropriate to use someone's real name on a baord where they're employing an alias. On the other hand, putting a narcissistically erotic spin on that is probably not the way to go with a stalker.

Yeah, but, unless he cracks into my personal info, I'm not too worried.

Anyways, back on topic:

Battle Magic Tactics - This one is tough to describe without getting into the nuts and bolts and I don't want to do that. Basically, if you hit a creature with a spell requiring a save at the beginning of a round, saves that it makes later in the same round are more likely to fail.

Mage Slayer - Negates the ability to cast defensively.

Kuo-toan Monasticism - Kuo-toa monks can use their adhesive to improve their flurry of blows.

Mind-Shattering Strike - Kuo-toan stunning fist attacks can also make opponents attack their allies to a limited degree.

Daunting Presence - Your very presence can make opponents shaken.

Sense Quintessence - Detect magic also allows you to detect quintessence.

Thanks for these. It's Mind-Shattering Strike kuo-toan only by any chance?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

He's been banished from the thread. Please drop it; it's dirty pool to keep on going without him here.

 

[Pielorinho]

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I'd appreciate it if you'd edit your previous post.

 

[Razz]

He's been banished from the thread. Please drop it; it's dirty pool to keep on going without him here.

Sorry, was mainly replying to what Felon had stated.