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<blockquote data-quote="Carnivorous_Bean" data-source="post: 4082244" data-attributes="member: 57974"><p>I don't see why "it's a computer game" is necessarily perjorative. Does having interesting things you can do in combat, rather than, "I hit, I miss, I hit, I miss," and inevitably being outclassed and outshone by the spellcasters, when you're any class but a spellcaster, mean that the game is somehow 'ruined'? </p><p></p><p>I also fail to see how making magic missile so that it can miss -- since IIRC you can now use it indefinitely now -- absolutely destroys the game either.</p><p></p><p>I also don't see why renaming priest spells as "prayers" is that big of an issue. At least now you can say "can I see the list of prayers" rather than having the clumsiness of "priest spells" and "wizard spells." And in any case, it appears to be a cosmetic non-issue. </p><p></p><p>And finally, if you already think that 1e is perfect, why on earth aren't you playing it? Why worry about 4th edition at all? It's no skin off your nose. Perfection, in your opinion, already exists -- go forth and use it, my friend! The creation of 4th edition does not prevent you from using 1st edition, which apparently already has everything you want. </p><p></p><p>I will respectfully point out, though, that if D&D was still trying to get by publishing 1st edition AD&D as its only and permanent product, it would be long, long, long, long, long dead, and there would be nothing remotely resembling D&D in the market today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carnivorous_Bean, post: 4082244, member: 57974"] I don't see why "it's a computer game" is necessarily perjorative. Does having interesting things you can do in combat, rather than, "I hit, I miss, I hit, I miss," and inevitably being outclassed and outshone by the spellcasters, when you're any class but a spellcaster, mean that the game is somehow 'ruined'? I also fail to see how making magic missile so that it can miss -- since IIRC you can now use it indefinitely now -- absolutely destroys the game either. I also don't see why renaming priest spells as "prayers" is that big of an issue. At least now you can say "can I see the list of prayers" rather than having the clumsiness of "priest spells" and "wizard spells." And in any case, it appears to be a cosmetic non-issue. And finally, if you already think that 1e is perfect, why on earth aren't you playing it? Why worry about 4th edition at all? It's no skin off your nose. Perfection, in your opinion, already exists -- go forth and use it, my friend! The creation of 4th edition does not prevent you from using 1st edition, which apparently already has everything you want. I will respectfully point out, though, that if D&D was still trying to get by publishing 1st edition AD&D as its only and permanent product, it would be long, long, long, long, long dead, and there would be nothing remotely resembling D&D in the market today. [/QUOTE]
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