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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4082793" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Oh, do tell...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Your entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I fail to see how this is relevant to 4e. One of the longest combats I ever saw was in second edition. And fourth edition is speeding up combat. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see your definition of cool relies heavily on a mountain of dead, fragile elven wizards because the DM rolled a 19 on his save vs. spell and the kobold's spear does 1d6 against your 2 naturally rolled hp.</p><p></p><p>Oh, elf is still a race in the PH. Dagger is in the equipment list. Sleep is a daily power, and you still have an option to put you lowest score in con. Ta. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, because I had Sooo much fun being the bard watching everyone else do something while I used a standard action to grant +1 to hit and damage. Or the cleric who cast cure light wounds every round to keep the fighter alive. Or the monk with his flurry or misses. Or the rogue who couldn't do enough damage to with his dagger to damage a CR 1/2 skeleton... </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Didn't say you were wrong. You like an older version of the game. There are people still running Windows 98 ya know? However, to look at the latest version of the game and decree a.) the designers are ruining your fun and b.) you know the best and proper for D&D to be played makes me think you almost might want to dismount before engaging in mortal combat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dunno. I had LOTS of fun in BECMI. and 2e. And Players Options. And 3e. And 3.5. I still LOVE BECMI D&D and would play it in a heartbeat. But I'm also willing to move on. I don't still use Windows 98. I don't drive the same car I drove in High School. I don't play the same version of D&D I did 10 years ago. You found your Graceland, enjoy. But don't come here and tell me I'm not allowed to enjoy the latest new hotness because you found things perfect years ago. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your Milage May Very.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 4082793, member: 7635"] Oh, do tell... Your entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine. I fail to see how this is relevant to 4e. One of the longest combats I ever saw was in second edition. And fourth edition is speeding up combat. I see your definition of cool relies heavily on a mountain of dead, fragile elven wizards because the DM rolled a 19 on his save vs. spell and the kobold's spear does 1d6 against your 2 naturally rolled hp. Oh, elf is still a race in the PH. Dagger is in the equipment list. Sleep is a daily power, and you still have an option to put you lowest score in con. Ta. Oh yeah, because I had Sooo much fun being the bard watching everyone else do something while I used a standard action to grant +1 to hit and damage. Or the cleric who cast cure light wounds every round to keep the fighter alive. Or the monk with his flurry or misses. Or the rogue who couldn't do enough damage to with his dagger to damage a CR 1/2 skeleton... Didn't say you were wrong. You like an older version of the game. There are people still running Windows 98 ya know? However, to look at the latest version of the game and decree a.) the designers are ruining your fun and b.) you know the best and proper for D&D to be played makes me think you almost might want to dismount before engaging in mortal combat. I dunno. I had LOTS of fun in BECMI. and 2e. And Players Options. And 3e. And 3.5. I still LOVE BECMI D&D and would play it in a heartbeat. But I'm also willing to move on. I don't still use Windows 98. I don't drive the same car I drove in High School. I don't play the same version of D&D I did 10 years ago. You found your Graceland, enjoy. But don't come here and tell me I'm not allowed to enjoy the latest new hotness because you found things perfect years ago. Your Milage May Very. [/QUOTE]
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