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<blockquote data-quote="qstor" data-source="post: 4083842" data-attributes="member: 1489"><p>For me it's more that 4E doesn't seem like D&D. I mean there's wizards, orcs, to hit vs AC etc but the tone has changed completely. It's more of a radical departure from the previous editions. I'm not sure WHY game balance and ease of play are the reasons for the change. Sure high level combat in 3e takes a long time but have the WOTC play testers wrote out 25th level 4e PCs? I'm sure high level combat takes some time in 4e as well. esp if you have tons of powers to deal with. The conspiracy theorist in me seems some hidden ORCUS memo from Hasbro as the reason for 4e like "How to get more people off of WOW and playing D&D"</p><p></p><p>As far as lava being instant death? I thought one of the points in 4e was nothing was automatic anymore? At least one of the players at the preview table said that in response to my "WHAT magic missile doesn't hit automatically anymore?" No more save or die in 4e. So auto death by environmental damage?? Personally I'm not so sure</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="qstor, post: 4083842, member: 1489"] For me it's more that 4E doesn't seem like D&D. I mean there's wizards, orcs, to hit vs AC etc but the tone has changed completely. It's more of a radical departure from the previous editions. I'm not sure WHY game balance and ease of play are the reasons for the change. Sure high level combat in 3e takes a long time but have the WOTC play testers wrote out 25th level 4e PCs? I'm sure high level combat takes some time in 4e as well. esp if you have tons of powers to deal with. The conspiracy theorist in me seems some hidden ORCUS memo from Hasbro as the reason for 4e like "How to get more people off of WOW and playing D&D" As far as lava being instant death? I thought one of the points in 4e was nothing was automatic anymore? At least one of the players at the preview table said that in response to my "WHAT magic missile doesn't hit automatically anymore?" No more save or die in 4e. So auto death by environmental damage?? Personally I'm not so sure [/QUOTE]
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