I just realised...

[hong]

Uncanny dodge negates ninja sudden strike entirely, and Blind-Fight does it almost entirely.

 

[Li Shenron]

What does Sudden Strike do?

I use only the Ninja class from Rokugan.

 

[hong]

Like sneak attack, but only works when the target is denied Dex bonus to AC (ie, doesn't work when flanking).

I suppose you can still use it against climbing or balancing targets, but still....

 

[Geoff Watson]

Uncanny dodge negates ninja sudden strike entirely, and Blind-Fight does it almost entirely.

It stops the 'no brainer' Ghost Step/Sudden Strike. There are other ways to get people to lose their Dex bonus.

Geoff.

 

[hong]

Well, it's only a no-brainer in the sense that rogues trying to get flanking is a no-brainer. The limit on uses/day is also significant, at least for PC ninjae. (Those drow you fought had 4 uses per day, BTW.)

 

[hong]

Just looking at the stats again... hmm. CAdv says ninjae get their funky powers only if wearing no armour. But the MM4 Lolth's Sting (drow ninja) is wearing leather. Huh?

 

[Musrum]

Well, it's only a no-brainer in the sense that rogues trying to get flanking is a no-brainer. The limit on uses/day is also significant, at least for PC ninjae. (Those drow you fought had 4 uses per day, BTW.)

And how many (uses per day)
had been used up on previous encounters?

 

[hong]

And how many (uses per day)
had been used up on previous encounters?

Exactly.

 

[Darklone]

Uncanny dodge negates ninja sudden strike entirely, and Blind-Fight does it almost entirely.

Well, Uncanny Dodge kills sneak attack too, so where's the problem?

 

[wayne62682]

Well, Uncanny Dodge kills sneak attack too, so where's the problem?

The "problem", I guess, is that the Ninja's version is killed ENTIRELY, while the Rogue just has to flank (although Improved Uncanny Dodge is a load of garbage IMO since it makes the Rogue useless) to get Sneak attack.