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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2785313" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>This is totally logically fallacious. Of course <em>some</em> adults are less mature than <em>some</em> children. It is also true that certain severely mentally challenged humans are less intelligent than chimps. But it cannot therefore be reasoned that chimps, as a whole, are smarter than humans. </p><p></p><p>What does "mature" mean? It means exhibiting traits associated with age. Simply by using the dictionary, it is impossible to conclude that adults are not more mature than children. I know this is ENWorld, where all generalizations are wrong, but for goodness sake, are you really telling me you would have just as good a time gaming with 10 year olds as you would with your group!?That's what maturity is: adapting to society's rules so that one's flaws don't inconvenience others quite so much. If you think that's a valueless act, walk around for the week telling everyone what you really think, unmediated by social convention.</p><p></p><p>Gamers, as a whole, <em>are</em> less mature than society at large. Our ranks over-represent people who lack either an inherent talent or an emotional inclination towards conforming to the rules that glue society together. Maturity isn't about the pristine nature of your soul; it is about curbing your natural inclinations in order to refrain from violating standards of social conduct.Acting mature is a combination of inherent talent and learned skill. This is like saying that literacy and numeracy have nothing to do with age. Just because there isn't a 1:1 correspondence at the individual level doesn't mean there isn't a clear direct variation relationship statistically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 2785313, member: 7240"] This is totally logically fallacious. Of course [i]some[/i] adults are less mature than [i]some[/i] children. It is also true that certain severely mentally challenged humans are less intelligent than chimps. But it cannot therefore be reasoned that chimps, as a whole, are smarter than humans. What does "mature" mean? It means exhibiting traits associated with age. Simply by using the dictionary, it is impossible to conclude that adults are not more mature than children. I know this is ENWorld, where all generalizations are wrong, but for goodness sake, are you really telling me you would have just as good a time gaming with 10 year olds as you would with your group!?That's what maturity is: adapting to society's rules so that one's flaws don't inconvenience others quite so much. If you think that's a valueless act, walk around for the week telling everyone what you really think, unmediated by social convention. Gamers, as a whole, [i]are[/i] less mature than society at large. Our ranks over-represent people who lack either an inherent talent or an emotional inclination towards conforming to the rules that glue society together. Maturity isn't about the pristine nature of your soul; it is about curbing your natural inclinations in order to refrain from violating standards of social conduct.Acting mature is a combination of inherent talent and learned skill. This is like saying that literacy and numeracy have nothing to do with age. Just because there isn't a 1:1 correspondence at the individual level doesn't mean there isn't a clear direct variation relationship statistically. [/QUOTE]
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