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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2785925" data-attributes="member: 35678">tsk tsk. I use dictionary.com for split second look-ups, but if you are going into such details as you are, at least take out your copy of Websters New Dictionary, man - that's just common courtesy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Anywho, I think many have made good points for either side of the arguement. I personally think that we humans continue to grow and mature as we age right up untill we die. However, we do not do so at the same pace. Teenagers can be very mature, adults can be complete write-offs.Now, I beleive the main argument which was mentioned here as an issue is the generational gap. That is a larger factor than any 'maturity' issue at hand. Baby boomers are very different from generation X, etc. This is because we have to deal with so many issues that change day to day, year to year, generation to generation. That is life, and that is progression - although it comes at a cost. I don't live with my father due to issues we have understadning each other, and other personal issues not worth mentioning here.***The fact is gruff, you need to make yourself a set of standards for what you truely want in your gaming group - and then you need to impliment them. It doesn't matter which side of the DM's screen you wish to be on - there will always be another DM or another player. The thing is you must be picky about those people. I second (or third, or forth) taking a break from D&D - after officially declaring to your gaming group that you do not wish to play with them anymore. I think that the saying previously mentioned 'life is too short to have bad gaming' holds very true here. Now, you say you are not sure if you wish to stay or go - and by no means do you have to stay this course - that is why a break would be good here. Chil with your other friends, and just put your time and enery to other things. If you find yourself missing it alot, perhaps then it will be time to blow the dust off your PHB and say 'lets go and break out the character sheets and dice and have at some dastardly orcs!'. Make a list of what you enjoy, and try to number it, but do so objectively. Try to not be biased and say 'yeah, i am having problems with D&D, but i like it more than basketball. okay, D&D 1, b-ball 2.'Talk with your friends (the jocks/quasi-jocks) and ask them if they would ever be interested in playing D&D. Currently, i play with a drummer/paintballer, a warehouse worker/techie geek, a realy lazy dude with no plan/aspirations for life, a half black/half asian anime guy whos is SO funny, some guy who i don't know very well, a really annoying guy (the 18 year old who is likely getting the boot), an improv funny-man, a guy who's listens to everything from black metal to Jay-Z, and yours truely - a metalhead/nerd who is the only one in a steady relationship of two whole (amazing) years. So there's 8 (dynamic) players and me the DM. We generally get along, except for that one problem maker - but once i get a manifesto in a good draft, i will be able to easily expell him.One thing i have been toying with is a relatively simple Rule:</blockquote>

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