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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 2786988" data-attributes="member: 2238">Edena - bear with me here- I am not disagreeing with you.You make these statements and they make sense to me.But this next part made me realise somthing.So what you are saying is that many people and even a number of gamers themselves think that there is a larger proportion of people who are socially maladjusted in the gamer population and that you disagree with that notion.  I see your point and I am inclined to agree.  However your statement about the distressing number of gamers that insist that most gamers are maladjusted made me articulate somthing I have been trying to articulate for some years now.  That there is a large portion of the gaming populous sees being a gamer  as a stigma, and they embrace that stigma.  There is a defintite subculture of gamers that rather than adjust socially would rather wear their social rejection like a badge.  They wallow in it.  Its a problem of self image.  Most gamers would say yes I am a gamer.  But these people say "I am a gamer, and people don't like gamers except other gamers, and so I will avoid all other people but gamers and in that company I have no social bounds"  I have seen this with other subcultures.  It exists in anime fandom, among the trekkies, in hacker circles, punk culture, the rave culture etc.  Its the tendancy to take an interest and make it your excuse for social ills and these people tend to give whatever subculture they are in a bad rap.  They are also more likely to self identify with the subculture.  As in "I am a gamer."  Most gamers would not identify themselves as such right off the bat.  I throughly believe that it is these people, the ones that self identify as gamers and use that identity as an excuse for their behevior that give the gaming populous the stigma that so many are concerned about it.It seems to me that there are three groups.  One is the people who don't care about the stigma.  The other is the group trying to fight it.  And the final group is the one that wants to keep it.</blockquote>

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