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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GameOgre" data-source="post: 6915517" data-attributes="member: 57914">I need to get home to see what the spellcasting part of a 5 Paladin/15 cleric would be. I think that is going to be what i suggest.I think he likes to melee and probably at first would rather have been a fighter but the group needed a healer so he tried cleric but tried to get his fighter (High) while playing a cleric. He knows he isn't ever going to be as good a melee guy as the fighter....Fighters get tons more attacks and specials BUT he seems to be happy being a melee oriented cleric. He would happily give up greater spell damage for increased melee damage.Why does he want the extra attack so much? I think his Pathfinder and 3.5 clerics got two attacks and he just considers that the baseline for melee class's. Like I said I could tell him right now..you get a extra melee attack at 5th but lose all attack spells and he would be thrilled.Come to think of it i only remember him casting ranged attack spells in pathfinder once.So it isn't a power grab for more damage or anything like that. It just fits his mental image of what a Battle Cleric should be.You know I think I just talked myself into giving him a extra attack at 6th level. House Rule #23 coming up. No reason to have him go Paladin and all that hassle for a tiny bit more combat ability...I'll just take his war feature for it and call it a day and see how it ends up.</blockquote>