I need help advancing a creature...
- Thread starter Aluvial
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FrankTrollman
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I would add the template first, because you're going to be adding 4 hit dice and turning all the hit dice into Outsider Hit Dice, so it's better to add the hit dice as Outsider hit dice in the first place.
Base stats are:
Str 25 Dex 15 Con 17 Int 2 Wiz 12 Cha 10
With attacks of 2 Claws d6+7, Bite d8+3, and (2 Rakes d6+3).
And +4 Natty Armor.
Becoming a Half Fiend changes stats to:
Str 29 Dex 19 Con 19 Int 6 Wiz 12 Cha 12
Attacks are now 2 Claws at d6+9, Bite d8+4, and (2 rakes d6+4)
And +5 Natty Armor.
It now has a BAB of +12, so that Pouncing Full Attack is 2 Claws +21, Bite +19. It's grapple bonus is +25.
It has a Smite Good for +12 damage.
It can cast the following as spell-like abilities: Darkness 3/day; Desecrate 1/day; Unholy Blight 1/day; Poison 3/day; Contagion 1/day; Blasphemy 1/day.
It now has 15 ranks in 6 skills. It can fly. It has SR 22, DR of 10/Magic, it is immune to poison and has Acid Cold Electricity and Fire resistance 10.
It is CR 10 - but take that with a grain of salt, it casts Blasphemy at caster level 12 once a day. While a CR 10 is supposed to be a really tough fight for a 7th level party - that one spell will kill an entire 7th level party without so much as a saving throw.
-Frank
Base stats are:
Str 25 Dex 15 Con 17 Int 2 Wiz 12 Cha 10
With attacks of 2 Claws d6+7, Bite d8+3, and (2 Rakes d6+3).
And +4 Natty Armor.
Becoming a Half Fiend changes stats to:
Str 29 Dex 19 Con 19 Int 6 Wiz 12 Cha 12
Attacks are now 2 Claws at d6+9, Bite d8+4, and (2 rakes d6+4)
And +5 Natty Armor.
It now has a BAB of +12, so that Pouncing Full Attack is 2 Claws +21, Bite +19. It's grapple bonus is +25.
It has a Smite Good for +12 damage.
It can cast the following as spell-like abilities: Darkness 3/day; Desecrate 1/day; Unholy Blight 1/day; Poison 3/day; Contagion 1/day; Blasphemy 1/day.
It now has 15 ranks in 6 skills. It can fly. It has SR 22, DR of 10/Magic, it is immune to poison and has Acid Cold Electricity and Fire resistance 10.
It is CR 10 - but take that with a grain of salt, it casts Blasphemy at caster level 12 once a day. While a CR 10 is supposed to be a really tough fight for a 7th level party - that one spell will kill an entire 7th level party without so much as a saving throw.
-Frank
iwatt
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Originally
OK, so you want to advance it to 12 HD. This doesn't change his size. But he does gain 2 feats, and one ability increase (All of the physical abilities seem good choices, but I'd go with STR ).
His BAB raises to +9 (as cleric of 12 HD)
His Base saves are +8/+8/+8. Notice that some animals (like this one) also have a good will save besides always having good Fort and Ref.
Remember the claw has weapon focus.
Finnally, you have 4 skill points to distribute. I'd raise Spot and Listen by 2. I believe they're "racial" skills for animals.
The feats I'd choose are Multiattack (-2 to bite instead of -5). And Improved Natural Attack [Claw] (1d8 instead of 1d6). The bite could also go up, but ther are more claw attacks, and it generally ties in with the weapon focus.
Hope this helped.
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DIRE LION
Large Animal
Hit Dice: 8d8+24 (60 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13
Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+17
Attack: Claw +13 melee (1d6+7)
Full Attack: 2 claws +13 melee (1d6+7) and bite +7 melee (1d8+3)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d6+3
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +8, Will +7
Abilities: Str 25, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Hide +2*, Listen +7, Move Silently +5, Spot +7
Feats: Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw)
Environment: Warm plains
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pride (6–10)
Challenge Rating: 5
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 9–16 HD (Large); 17–24 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —OK, so you want to advance it to 12 HD. This doesn't change his size. But he does gain 2 feats, and one ability increase (All of the physical abilities seem good choices, but I'd go with STR ).
His BAB raises to +9 (as cleric of 12 HD)
His Base saves are +8/+8/+8. Notice that some animals (like this one) also have a good will save besides always having good Fort and Ref.
Remember the claw has weapon focus.
Finnally, you have 4 skill points to distribute. I'd raise Spot and Listen by 2. I believe they're "racial" skills for animals.
The feats I'd choose are Multiattack (-2 to bite instead of -5). And Improved Natural Attack [Claw] (1d8 instead of 1d6). The bite could also go up, but ther are more claw attacks, and it generally ties in with the weapon focus.
Code:
Fiendish DIRE LION
Large Animal
Hit Dice: 12d8+36 (90 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13
Base Attack/Grapple: +9/+21
Attack: Claw +17 melee (1d8+8)
Full Attack: 2 claws +17 melee (1d8+8) and bite +14 melee (1d8+4)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab, pounce, rake 1d8+4
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent, DR 10/magic, Smite Good (+12 Dmg),
Cold and Fire resistance 10, SR 17, Darkvision 60'.
Saves: Fort +11, Ref +10, Will +9
Abilities: Str 26, Dex 15, Con 17, Int 3, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Hide +2*, Listen +9, Move Silently +5, Spot +9
Feats: Alertness, Run, Weapon Focus (claw), Multiattack, Improved Natural
Attack (Claw).
Challenge Rating: 8 (+1 for extra 3HD +2 for template)Hope this helped.
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iwatt
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Aluvial said:
The SRD says:
and
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Table: Creature Improvement by Type
Hit Die Attack Bonus Good Saving Throws Skill Points*
Aberration d8 HD x3/4 (as cleric) Will 2 + Int mod per HD
Animal d8 HD x3/4 (as cleric) Fort, Ref (and sometimes Will) 2 + Int mod per HDiwatt
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Aluvial said:
from the SRD:
I know what you mean.In a rake it's the rear claws (doing half Str damage by the way, instead of the foreclaws with full Str damage).
But the Claws in the description say Melee +13 (includes Weapon Focus) and 1d6+7, and the rake says melee +12 (no weapon Focus) and 1d6+3. So I'd have to say that means that the rear claws are different weapons than the fore-claws. Improved natural attack says "choose ONE natural weapon". So The damage from the rake for your Fiendis Advanced Dire Lion is: +15 1d6+4
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