D&D 3E/3.5 I need ideas to pimp my 3.5 Rogue.

[Oryan77]

I have a Rogue 10 / Swashbuckler 3 Tiefling. He's pretty much set on the offensive damage (Imp. Two-Weapon, Daring Outlaw, Craven, Staggering Strike). Str 16, Dex 24, Con 14, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 8.

I feel that any more levels in Rogue or Swashbuckler won't really help improve him in areas that I am concerned about. More skill points would be nice, but my high Int helped me keep plenty of them boosted.

My main concern is the lower Fort & Will (mostly Will). I could also use a boost in hitpoints. My other main concern is that I want to spice the PC up with more available (quirky) options. I don't want to just get more sneak attack damage. I'm already happy with my damage output (although more damage for non Sneak Attack hits would be nice).

I can't decide what else to level up in. PrCs are hard to qualify for at this point since I didn't plan ahead. I also haven't seen anything that interested me.

I thought of going a few levels in Cleric to give me some extra options. Better Fort & Will, more HP, and I would like the +10 Speed (and Expeditious Retreat spell) for choosing the Celerity Domain (I love getting extra speed or movement benefits). The problem here is crappy skill points and not being able to add them to skills I care about (not interested in Domains that give class skills). The other problem is that Will & Cha are my dump stats and I lose out on the clerical abilities. Selecting a feat like Divine Vigor would help deal with my lack of wanting to use Turn Undead. But even those sort of feats are wasted with my terrible Cha. Offensive spells would be a waste with the low DC, and defensive spells would barely last with my bad dump stats.

It would be nice to make use of the high Int score with some sort of Arcane casting. But I'm still a front line melee guy and most of those classes will give me barely any hitpoints.

Can anyone give me some suggestions for a class to dip in that I can benefit from and have some fun new abilities to play with? I prefer that it still allows me to play the melee fighting role though. Most 3.5 WotC books are available except for Tome of Battle, PHB 2, and Spell Compendium.

 

[Dandu]

How about Assassin?

 

[Oryan77]

How about Assassin?

My PC isn't evil. Assassin also isn't going to improve my poor saves or BAB, and there isn't anything else it grants that would spice up the gameplay. Like I said, I'm happy with my Sneak Attack output already and am not too interested in improving damage (except for non SA melee damage). I'd still get more benefits going Cleric. Which I may do if I can't find anything else more worthwhile.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

If it wasn't for the 3.5 restriction (and probably book restriction too) I'd say pick up the Crescent Knife from Dragon 275. It's an exotic weapon that essentially doubles your attacks.

See if you can get Gloves of the Balanced Hand to get you Greater TWF since you have Improved already.

Are you interested in Ambush feats?

Why isn't the PHB2 allowed by the way? Just don't have it available? Front line Int character screams Duskblade.

 

[Oryan77]

If it wasn't for the 3.5 restriction (and probably book restriction too) I'd say pick up the Crescent Knife from Dragon 275. It's an exotic weapon that essentially doubles your attacks.

See if you can get Gloves of the Balanced Hand to get you Greater TWF since you have Improved already.

Are you interested in Ambush feats?

I'm mostly interested in what class to dip into for my next level since I need to level up. I'm still interested in feat ideas, but I won't get a new feat anytime soon.

The MIC is also unfortunately banned (I love that book).

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

PsyWar. Learn the various transformative body weapon powers and never be unarmed again.

Beguiler or Spellthief: defeat foes without drawing a weapon...

 

[Dandu]

My PC isn't evil.

Then how about the Avenger?

 

[Jackinthegreen]

I'm mostly interested in what class to dip into for my next level since I need to level up. I'm still interested in feat ideas, but I won't get a new feat anytime soon.

The MIC is also unfortunately banned (I love that book).

I took the liberty of looking up the original book they were published in... I'm guessing Magic of Faerun is out too?

Besides a Duskblade, I can't think of much that would really help you. Factotum from Dungeonscape perhaps? Wizard into Abjurant Champion maybe? The feat requirement is Combat Casting and you have the rest covered besides the arcane spells.

If you want a plain BAB class then Fighter will work just fine. There's going to be at least one fighter feat you can take advantage of.

 

[Dandu]

There's always Urban Ranger.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

It has a lot of feat requirements, but if you happen to have them all, Dervish PrC from C.Warrior is a decent class and is one of the rare full BAB classes that gets a good will save progression.

Hexblade or Paladin dip would also help saves if you have a good charisma, though I doubt it's very high for you.

(Cloistered) Cleric dip is amazing for anyone. Get some devotion feats, like Travel Devotion, and enjoy.

Factotum 3 will not help your saves one lick (like rogue, they have the worst saves in the game: good reflex only), but you could use int on saves a few times per combat if you wanted. More importantly, you get Brains Over Brawn to boost initiative, many skills, and several combat maneuvers. Could be an interesting option.

Or you could try out a Warblade. I quite like them. You'll get good base fort, can pick up Moment of Perfect Mind maneuver for will saves, and you add int to reflex saves (up to warblade level in bonus), and get more uses for high Int as you level up in the class. They also have the beefiest HD, a d12. And you get to add half your previous levels for calculating your Initiator Level (IL), so you'd start off as a 1st level Warblade w/ IL 7, and able to choose up to 4th level maneuvers.