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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 8891229" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>For my own part, I am not all that attached to 5e. I just jumped in from PF2 9 months ago. I just changed systems, dropped a bunch of money on DDB, and have a couple of campaigns to run and finish. I'm going to do that and I'm still keen on it, thankfully. They haven't killed that joy (yet).</p><p></p><p>I will pay for a DDB Master subscription, as my players need that for Foundry use. The moment that breaks? The DDB sub ends.</p><p></p><p>I would have bought some more 5e books over the next 12-24 months from DDB. That is not something I will do now. They aren't getting more of my money for that.</p><p></p><p>I do expect that a version of 5e will arise out of the existing 3pp a la Pathfinder 1 in the next while, whether that comes out just before 6e or at the same time? That seems all but certain to happen now. At the least, there is A5e, right? Whatever the case, some <em>products, somehow will </em>manage to fulfill that role.</p><p></p><p>Whatever the case, my guess is that those larger 3pp whose businesses are attached to 5e who will go that route and it will be 2008 & PF1 all over again. That's okay. <strong><em><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)">I think that may be a good thing</span></em></strong>. I will support that, and VTTs will be able to support it, too. Pathfinder was a great thing for the hobby and it was the right game at the right time. It materially contributed to the hobby and Adv Paths remain my favorite form of play.</p><p></p><p>If something similar emerges from the next D&D clone? <em>Awesome</em>. That is not the time for a funeral dirge, but an optimistic bit of wondrous discovery. Great!</p><p></p><p>I am not optimistic that this, too, shall pass, in terms of feelings towards WotC and their branded game. <em>It might not folks.</em> Still, Pathfinder 1 was D&D to me, and the next one will likely be, too. I'm good. It's just a trade-mark in the end.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)">Bottom Line:</span></strong> <em>Screw these guys</em>. They own a trademark and <em>some</em> IP. But the heart of the game? It's not in a book, it's not in the Registrar of Trade-marks, or the Copyright office, or any of that crap. The game lives in your head, in your hearts, in the friendships you have with your fellow gamers at the table, over Zoom, Discord, Skype -- and on forums like this. They don't own that. They will NEVER own that. That belongs to you.</p><p></p><p>It will be ugly and disruptive, but in the end? <strong><em>It will be fine.</em></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 8891229, member: 20741"] For my own part, I am not all that attached to 5e. I just jumped in from PF2 9 months ago. I just changed systems, dropped a bunch of money on DDB, and have a couple of campaigns to run and finish. I'm going to do that and I'm still keen on it, thankfully. They haven't killed that joy (yet). I will pay for a DDB Master subscription, as my players need that for Foundry use. The moment that breaks? The DDB sub ends. I would have bought some more 5e books over the next 12-24 months from DDB. That is not something I will do now. They aren't getting more of my money for that. I do expect that a version of 5e will arise out of the existing 3pp a la Pathfinder 1 in the next while, whether that comes out just before 6e or at the same time? That seems all but certain to happen now. At the least, there is A5e, right? Whatever the case, some [I]products, somehow will [/I]manage to fulfill that role. Whatever the case, my guess is that those larger 3pp whose businesses are attached to 5e who will go that route and it will be 2008 & PF1 all over again. That's okay. [B][I][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]I think that may be a good thing[/COLOR][/I][/B]. I will support that, and VTTs will be able to support it, too. Pathfinder was a great thing for the hobby and it was the right game at the right time. It materially contributed to the hobby and Adv Paths remain my favorite form of play. If something similar emerges from the next D&D clone? [I]Awesome[/I]. That is not the time for a funeral dirge, but an optimistic bit of wondrous discovery. Great! I am not optimistic that this, too, shall pass, in terms of feelings towards WotC and their branded game. [I]It might not folks.[/I] Still, Pathfinder 1 was D&D to me, and the next one will likely be, too. I'm good. It's just a trade-mark in the end. [B][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Bottom Line:[/COLOR][/B] [I]Screw these guys[/I]. They own a trademark and [I]some[/I] IP. But the heart of the game? It's not in a book, it's not in the Registrar of Trade-marks, or the Copyright office, or any of that crap. The game lives in your head, in your hearts, in the friendships you have with your fellow gamers at the table, over Zoom, Discord, Skype -- and on forums like this. They don't own that. They will NEVER own that. That belongs to you. It will be ugly and disruptive, but in the end? [B][I]It will be fine.[/I][/B] [/QUOTE]
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