I think my DM is out to get me....
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Here is the basics of a bard. It is already a great at social interaction, can attempt to use ANY skill with around a +10 modifier, decent at spell casting (vs. living foes) and fighting.
From this framework it could be taken in many directions; elf archer (by choosing archery feats), Spellcaster (stongest option is likely spell focus and greater spell focus illusion and picking the shadow conjuration/evocation spells), melee combatant (I find that inspire courage works well with two-weapon fighting and if you pick up the armored caster feat you can use mithral full plates, combined with protective spells and physical stat enchancers you can be deadly) and so on.
Bard 16
Hit Dice: 16d6+32 (91 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 30 ft.
Armor Class: 20 (+2 Dex, +8 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 18
Base Attack/Grapple: +12/+14
Attack: Weapon +15/+10/+5 melee or ranged (1d6+5), with inspire courage +18/+13/+8 (1d6+8)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Spells
Special Qualities: Bardic Music 16/day, Countersong, Fascinate, Inspire Courage +3, Inspire Competence, Suggestion, Inspire Greatness, Song of Freedom, Inspire Heroics, Bardic Knack (when making skill checks you can replace your actual ranks with half your level, +8, for any skill that can be used untrained or you have at least 1 rank in)
Saves: Fort +10, Ref +15, Will +14
Abilities: Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 24
Skills: Bluff +23, Decipher Script +1*, Diplomacy +23, Disable Device +1*, Knowledge (all fields) +1*, Listen +20, Forgery +1*, Perform +23, Sense Motive +20, Sleight of Hand +3*, Spellcraft +1*, Use Magic Device +23
*1 Rank to enable Bardic Knack.
Feats: 6 feats
Equipment: Weapon +3, Mithral Breastplate +3, Cloak of protection +3, X of charisma +6
Spells per day 4/6/6/5/4/3/1, Caster level 16, Save DC: 17 + spell level.
Spells known 6/5/4/4/4/4/2
1: Disguise Self, Hideous Laughter, +2
2: Glitterdust, Silence, +2
3: Charm Monster, Haste, +2
4: Cure Critical Wounds, Greater Invisibility, +2
5:Greater Dispel Magic, Song of Discord, +2
6: Irresistible Dance, +1
From this framework it could be taken in many directions; elf archer (by choosing archery feats), Spellcaster (stongest option is likely spell focus and greater spell focus illusion and picking the shadow conjuration/evocation spells), melee combatant (I find that inspire courage works well with two-weapon fighting and if you pick up the armored caster feat you can use mithral full plates, combined with protective spells and physical stat enchancers you can be deadly) and so on.
Bard 16
Hit Dice: 16d6+32 (91 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 30 ft.
Armor Class: 20 (+2 Dex, +8 armor), touch 13, flat-footed 18
Base Attack/Grapple: +12/+14
Attack: Weapon +15/+10/+5 melee or ranged (1d6+5), with inspire courage +18/+13/+8 (1d6+8)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Spells
Special Qualities: Bardic Music 16/day, Countersong, Fascinate, Inspire Courage +3, Inspire Competence, Suggestion, Inspire Greatness, Song of Freedom, Inspire Heroics, Bardic Knack (when making skill checks you can replace your actual ranks with half your level, +8, for any skill that can be used untrained or you have at least 1 rank in)
Saves: Fort +10, Ref +15, Will +14
Abilities: Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 24
Skills: Bluff +23, Decipher Script +1*, Diplomacy +23, Disable Device +1*, Knowledge (all fields) +1*, Listen +20, Forgery +1*, Perform +23, Sense Motive +20, Sleight of Hand +3*, Spellcraft +1*, Use Magic Device +23
*1 Rank to enable Bardic Knack.
Feats: 6 feats
Equipment: Weapon +3, Mithral Breastplate +3, Cloak of protection +3, X of charisma +6
Spells per day 4/6/6/5/4/3/1, Caster level 16, Save DC: 17 + spell level.
Spells known 6/5/4/4/4/4/2
1: Disguise Self, Hideous Laughter, +2
2: Glitterdust, Silence, +2
3: Charm Monster, Haste, +2
4: Cure Critical Wounds, Greater Invisibility, +2
5:Greater Dispel Magic, Song of Discord, +2
6: Irresistible Dance, +1
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Nikroecyst
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I agree with Quartz. If you want some really kool spellcasting you can't go wrong with a Wiz3/Clr3/Mystic Theurge.
Angel Black
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Bryon_Soulweaver said:
5 levels of Favored Soul or a template that gives you Energy resistance?
Favored Soul seems better because you got the saving throws and the divine spells , even though the spellcasting of the class isn't that good.
Hmmm...just for fun I would pick one of these:
The Warriormage
Half fey (La+2, wings,fey type,low light vision, & spell like abilities bard like)
Bard 8/Fighter 2/Eldritch Knight 3
Hobgoblin (La +1,Darkvision,+2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution,racial bonus to move silently)
A stealthy, sneaky, leader type character.
The Supermodel
Gynosphinx (8HD,La+4,many spell like abilities)
and four levels in any spellcasting class except Cleric.(Supermodel because she does the "catwalk")
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