I think Orcs are the mystery race...

Reaper Steve

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but I hope I'm wrong.

Here's the evidence as I see it:
1) WoW (as one of many sources) has made orcs popular.
2) The Orc King all but screams that orcs are trying to become civilzed in D&D
3) D&D is also making orcs more accessible (see Eberron)
4) D&D has been promoting goblins/hobgoblins/bugbears as the evil races

If orcs are the mystery race, I think it will be a huge anticlimactic letdown.
"Look, you can play an orc in D&D now!"
[game show loser music]wa-wa-waaah[/game show loser music]
Thanks, but I can do that elsewhere, and it's not as cool as was when it was a novel idea.
'Orc' is no better than 'half-orc' as a PC race--same 'strong, dumb, uncivilzed brute' only without 'half' in front of it.

I know WotC can do better than that, so I hope orcs are not it.
 

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I agree that playable Orcs as the mystery race would be somewhat anti-climatic compared to something shiny and new, like playable ZipbranniflDracovampkittytaurs, but it wouldn't bother me either. Mostly, I just liked the Half-Orc and would like a good replacement in the PHB.

I'm usually up for some new shiny's, though.
 

Lurks-no-More said:
What's wrong with orcs beyond their Tolkien origin?

That's just it, while I'm a huge fan, whenever I see or hear the word Orc or Halfling I think of Middle-Earth, which is fine if I'm running a Middle-Earth campaign, which I would love to do one day with the d20 rules, but not in my Planescape campaign or what have you.
 



I'm thinking it will be something totally new to the game. I mean why keep orcs as a race secret, but announce that tieflings will be a pc race? Wouldn't it have made more sense the other way around? Tieflings or eladrin as a race would have been a surprise. Orcs, not so much.
 

Wormwood said:
Yeah really.

I haven't thought of Orcs as Tolkien's since I heard my first "Zabu".
Orcs, for me, bring memories of the green-skinned, snouted minions of Venger in the D&D cartoon.

But hey, I'm one of those hertics who only read JRRT because the movies were coming out.
 


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