I was "booed" for even showing the 4e Core books

[Fifth Element]

The owner asked me to be a little less physical next time something like that happens.

Well, yes, it was probably a suboptimal response. But sometimes it's what's needed.

 

[The Little Raven]

Well, yes, it was probably a suboptimal response. But sometimes it's what's needed.

Yeah, none of the staff was doing anything about the guy (he's a regular), and the owner wasn't there or he would have thrown him out himself. It would have been all good, but the guy made the mistake of grabbing me in addition to being a schmuck. I can deal with rude... but if you're rude and trying to manhandle me, you're going down.

 

[That One Guy]

Synnibar Synnibar Synnibar Synnibar Synnibar Synnibar.

Mustrum "Has no idea what it is, but wants to see Grimstaff reaction" Ridcully

I don't either, but this made me start to laugh in the middle of class. Good going.

(Not like it's my fault for reading ENWorld in class, right?)

When I skimmed the list of threads after I woke up this morning, I read "booed" as "boned" and at first my reaction was

But then I thought about it, and my reaction became

Gah... You have clinched it for me. I can not continue reading this thread. Ya jerk.

...totally kidding.

 

[El Mahdi]

My buddies and I were together buying the core 4e books at our FLGS when they were released. We all take good care of ourselves, hit the gym, and are generally not 'gamer' in appearance or level of fitness. . .

And what exactly does a "Gamer" look like?! How are non-gamers ever supposed to not see gamers in a stereotypical manner, if there are actual gamers who perpetuate this? For the record, there is no such thing as a typical "gamer appearance". Good for you on being in shape, however the 30 or so gamers* I've played with during my 21 years in the military, would probably take issue with your concept of what gamers typically look like (*most of them also in the military, of which I can say we do have a typical physical appearance and level of fitness).

Seems to me the "fat ass" that made his comments, was probably trying to make himself feel superior because of his perceived superior choice in gaming edtions. At the same time, it seems you and your friend were enjoying feeling superior in comparison to the "fat ass", because of your perceived superiority based on appearance. How is that any different than what he did?



Now back to the OP.

I wonder if one of the reasons these gamers felt the need to boo in this manner, was possibly to make themselves feel superior. IMO most everyone does this at least occasionally (I know I've been guilty of this at one time or another). No better way to trivialize something you don't like than to criticize it in a way that makes you and your choice feel superior (at least to the person doing the criticizing). Of course, this doesn't make it right.

 

[Remathilis]

Lets see...

I got ridiculed for playing second edition by a friends dad, who had played since '77 and cobbled together a "vastly superior" system using 1e and judicious amounts of houserules.

Another guy at my college game group asked what we were playing. I told him D&D. He asked if he could play. I handed him the 3.0 PHB, to which he replied "Oh, I thought you were playing D&D." got up and walked out.

Lately, my good friend said after a game "You know, that was fun. Fourth Edition is a great system, its just not D&D". I almost strangled him.

So yeah, I've been mocked for my choice of game for three editions now. I'm used to it.

 

[Arnwyn]

Has anybody else encounter such an attitude toward 4e?

Of course. My players joking boo, sigh, and/or roll their eyes at the mere mention of 4e.

They'll quickly change the subject, in any case.

One of my concerns is that the game system has become more important than the players or the DM. People are willing to sit out rather than hang out with friends and game. This is a shame.

Sure - a natural consequence when people's free time is decreasing.

I can hang out with friends when we do things that we all like - golfing is particularly fun, for instance.

 

[Remathilis]

So do you think this was acceptable behavior then?

-O

Did you read his signature?

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

I game with some folks who have displayed this attitude, though not quite with the same vitriol. I'm probably the most enthusiastic about 4e, so I tend to be the brunt of 4e related jokes. Most of them have played at least one game of 4e, with a rather positive response. One did not like 4e, though he seems to think this has more to do with the DM than the game itself (it was with a different group than ours.)

I've proposed running a 4e game a few times, but the response has been mostly indifference. Frankly, I get the sense that they are happy with their investment in 3.5 and don't care to move on from it. They do not want to spend money on new books, nor do they want to spend time absorbing a new system. I think it is too much of a departure from what they love, and that the new edition just came too soon.

While I don't necessarily agree, I certainly respect their opinions. And though some of them have said to me that yes, they would be willing to play in a 4e game because they come to hang out with friends and participate in a good story above anything else, I find myself less interested in putting something together because I don't want to run a game where everyone is just going through the motions. I want the game to excite them as well, but it doesn't seem to.

 

[National Acrobat]

For my group, it wasn't the '4e sux' mentality, it was the 'we've been playing 1e as a group for 19 years now, and see no reason to switch to 4e' that was our reasoning.

Only 2 of the six of us in the group have looked at or read any of the 4e books, and those who haven't, simply aren't interested.

I imagine, as others have said before, that it crosses gaming systems and genres as well as desire. Some are just happy with what they're doing and see no reason to do something new.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

I've personally displayed such behavior, but it was done in jest, and I wonder if this booing was the same. Did they honestly get upset and offended at 4e, or was it just standard peanut gallery antics?

Seriously, people are allowed to vocally dislike things.