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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 6837955" data-attributes="member: 907">Huh. The Pathfinder bard was a big disappointment to me, particularly Bardic Performance. Going from uses/day to rounds/day hurt the bard a lot IMO, particularly as each 3.5 use is generally good for 5+ rounds. The biggest nerfs were to Fascinate and Inspire Competence (3.5e: Rogue wants to take 20 on searching a chest for traps. Bard spends a Bardic Music use to give her +2. PF: Rogue wants to take 20 on searching the chest for traps. Bard won't Inspire Competence, because doing so would cost 20 rounds of bardic performance), and the downgrade of Song of Freedom (play for 1 minute to break enchantment, a very powerful effect) to Soothing Performance (4 rounds to mass cure serious wounds plus some minor condition removal, which is nowhere near as useful) was almost insulting.As a comparison, the 3.5e barbarian gets one rage + one rage per four levels, while the 3.5e bard gets one use of Bardic Music/level. While one should shy away from directly comparing individual class features, both are primary components of their respective classes, and the bard gets about 2-4 times as many uses of Bardic Music as the Barbarian gets rages. In PF, both have 4+stat mod rounds/day, +2 rounds/level. That's either a big nerf to bardic music, a big buff to rage, or (more likely) both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 6837955, member: 907"] Huh. The Pathfinder bard was a big disappointment to me, particularly Bardic Performance. Going from uses/day to rounds/day hurt the bard a lot IMO, particularly as each 3.5 use is generally good for 5+ rounds. The biggest nerfs were to Fascinate and Inspire Competence (3.5e: Rogue wants to take 20 on searching a chest for traps. Bard spends a Bardic Music use to give her +2. PF: Rogue wants to take 20 on searching the chest for traps. Bard won't Inspire Competence, because doing so would cost 20 rounds of bardic performance), and the downgrade of Song of Freedom (play for 1 minute to [I]break enchantment[/I], a very powerful effect) to Soothing Performance (4 rounds to [I]mass cure serious wounds[/I] plus some minor condition removal, which is nowhere near as useful) was almost insulting. As a comparison, the 3.5e barbarian gets one rage + one rage per four levels, while the 3.5e bard gets one use of Bardic Music/level. While one should shy away from directly comparing individual class features, both are primary components of their respective classes, and the bard gets about 2-4 times as many uses of Bardic Music as the Barbarian gets rages. In PF, both have 4+stat mod rounds/day, +2 rounds/level. That's either a big nerf to bardic music, a big buff to rage, or (more likely) both. [/QUOTE]

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