Iconics ...

[thalmin]

Sorry, I didn't get to read the PHB, I was just looking up different things and missed a lot. I didn't even finish my checklist. Too many people sharing just one copy of each book.

 

[darkbard]

Sorry, I didn't get to read the PHB, I was just looking up different things and missed a lot. I didn't even finish my checklist. Too many people sharing just one copy of each book.

But, Curt, even if you didn't read in depth, did you notice if each class has a corresponding illustration that probably serves as the iconic figure of the class?

 

[Sojorn]

But, Curt, even if you didn't read in depth, did you notice if each class has a corresponding illustration that probably serves as the iconic figure of the class?

I think all 8 of the class intro pictures can be found here:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4art/20080220a

Most of them are clustered near the middle, but the cleric is all by his lonesome a bit higher up.

I'm certain the elf with the two glowy green swords is the ranger class picture, so it'd follow that that's the other classes next to her. And as I said, the cleric wandered up north a bit for some reason.

 

[Belorin]

So in other words, no iconics were apparent.

Bel

 

[thalmin]

But, Curt, even if you didn't read in depth, did you notice if each class has a corresponding illustration that probably serves as the iconic figure of the class?

No, the only part of classes I was looking at was the number of at-will, encounter, and daily powers each had at first level.

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

There's this human cleric that seems to have popped up more than once. He's dark skinned with a bald head with a braided patch of hair on the back of his head. He's shown up in (I think) Race's and Classes and the Quest Reward excerpt.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

So in other words, no iconics were apparent.

Bel

The ionics where anything but iconic in my view. They do make an apprentice as names for their respected race, or at least the elf did in the elf article.

 

[Family]

There's this human cleric that seems to have popped up more than once. He's dark skinned with a bald head with a braided patch of hair on the back of his head.

Made Windu as a Padawan?

 

[Family]

The ionics where anything but iconic in my view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwp-lDSN3Qo

 

[Moon-Lancer]

I have seen it, but how does this show that the iconic d&d figures are iconic?

I was speaking in more of illustrative terms. D&D PHB PSA are a creative group. I do not think attributing thier creativity works to defend whether or not the iconic characters of d&d where iconic. Speaking on purly illustration in the player handbook are they really that iconic?

this is iconic in my view. Its what I see when i think of wizard.

this is not what i think of when i think of wizard

what is iconic for one generation may not be iconic for the next. realize this.

for example, this is the iconic druid in history and one of the few images to its name

however druid has a different connotation now, at least in fantasy

sometimes the druid is just represented as a cloaked figure in quasi historical fantasy

however their are some roles that have lots and lots of history and many popular and visual representations that go with the name.


When I think of a fighter i don't think of Regdar? Sure he has a sword and armor, but the the armor is not very iconic in my view, its mostly because his helm is so far removed of what traditional knights whore. I don't mind fantasy armor, but sometimes it can get a tad crazy where it steps outside the bounds and breaks the illusion.

When i think of a fighter or paladin, i think of this

or heck even this, possibly with a long sword... instead of a really long sword.

when i think of barbarian i think of this

The reason I don't think many of the d&d figures are iconic because i think it struggles with trying to be different, but also trying to be iconic, and seems to fail at both. I think their is stronger work done that towers over the d&d examples (even within the d&d genera) that takes the title of iconic.

I hope we can discuss this more. this has always been a fun topic.