ICV2 numbers from GAMA are interesting

[Parmandur]

I think Cosmere, like the Avatar Last Airbender RPG, will be bought by a lot of fans, and some tiny fraction (~1%) of those purchasers who were non-RPG players before buying the book will actually try the game out.

Which is not nothing!

But I wouldn't expect it to dominate charts for long.

It is a very well designed game, with a large target Fandom, and the more popular and accessible Mistborn is about to drop along with the Open Gaming SRD...so don't count it out yet.

 

[Parmandur]

Stores are about selling now?

@pemerton to clarify, I was bemusedly stating thst stores need to be mindful of selling in the present time. Board games a re a fast moving industry in terms of what is fashionable, and store owners need to keep popular stuff in stock to compete with online purchases.

So I'm still not sure why a game would need to having staying power to be "counted" in an industry sales chart aimed at said business owners...

 

[pemerton]

@pemerton to clarify, I was bemusedly stating thst stores need to be mindful of selling in the present time. Board games a re a fast moving industry in terms of what is fashionable, and store owners need to keep popular stuff in stock to compete with online purchases.

So I'm still not sure why a game would need to having staying power to be "counted" in an industry sales chart aimed at said business owners...

Sorry, I didn't mean to sow confusion. My "shocked face" was intended in sympathy to your point.

 

[Parmandur]

Sorry, I didn't mean to sow confusion. My "shocked face" was intended in sympathy to your point.

Yeah, that makes yet still just reading my sentence I realized it was sort of potentially equivocal.

 

[zakael19]

Question, does anybody know if these numbers still exclude online/direct/amazon sales? From what I can see, as of 2023 they excluded everything but hobby store retail + KS $.

 

[Parmandur]

Question, does anybody know if these numbers still exclude online/direct/amazon sales? From what I can see, as of 2023 they excluded everything but hobby store retail + KS $.

Seems to not include B&N, Amazon, or direct sales, no.

 

[zakael19]

Seems to not include B&N, Amazon, or direct sales, no.

Considering how much of DH for instance was direct via the CR webstore or via B&N / Amazon, do these rankings tell us much? I think it did direct pre-orders only too, so if it say sold a couple mil worth of book copies that would likely rejigger the ranking a lot but that isn’t being counted.

I think DS!’s sales on there would be almost entirely KS based too.

 

[Parmandur]

Considering how much of DH for instance was direct via the CR webstore or via B&N / Amazon, do these rankings tell us much? I think it did direct pre-orders only too, so if it say sold a couple mil worth of book copies that would likely rejigger the ranking a lot but that isn’t being counted.

I think DS!’s sales on there would be almost entirely KS based too.

For sure, also D&D sales are upwards of 66% direct sales now through Beyond physical and digital. Still the best selling in retail spaces.

 

[zakael19]

For sure, also D&D sales are upwards of 66% direct sales now through Beyond physical and digital. Still the best selling in retail spaces.

Oh for sure, I just think that maybe that one horror supplement's KS being so big is skewing the hell out of that chart.

 

[Parmandur]

Oh for sure, I just think that maybe that one horror supplement's KS being so big is skewing the hell out of that chart.

If Crooked Moon is only Kickstarter results, that is pretty bad news for retailers, since that was only like 21k backers. I think it is fairly likely that it has a strong shelf presence after a strong Kickstart.