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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4040395" data-attributes="member: 16285">What do you mean my arguements are not supported?&nbsp; They very much are - in fact you had to go to an entirely different magic item to bypass it (wondrous item instead of potion).Now for the other factor - how many auras are present?Each spell in effect has one, each creature summoned has a summoning spell associated with them - and that spell in no way allows for &quot;trapping&quot; inside a bottle.So if a potion (or an elixer) radiates more than 1 aura that is a cue to the caster of the Detect Magic spell that something is amiss.&nbsp; {Note I never said that he &quot;knew&quot; what was wrong or going on only that he had a clue that something more than meets the eye is present. I presented a way to get a quick idea if something is going on or not without having to use the &quot;expensive&quot; identify spell, which should require &quot;touching&quot; the object being identified}.Also using Detect Magic would have reasonably allowed for a subsequent use of trap finding by the party rogue to determine (or perhaps disable) the trap.&nbsp; Per the OP this was a trap so there should be some method that it can be found and disabled, reasonably.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4040395, member: 16285"] What do you mean my arguements are not supported? They very much are - in fact you had to go to an [I]entirely[/I] different magic item to bypass it (wondrous item instead of potion). Now for the other factor - how many auras are present? Each spell in effect has one, each creature summoned has a summoning spell associated with them - and that spell in no way allows for "trapping" inside a bottle. So if a potion (or an elixer) radiates more than 1 aura that is a cue to the caster of the Detect Magic spell that something is amiss. {Note I never said that he "knew" what was wrong or going on only that he had a clue that something more than meets the eye is present. I presented a way to get a quick idea if something is going on or not without having to use the "expensive" identify spell, which should require "touching" the object being identified}. Also using Detect Magic would have reasonably allowed for a subsequent use of trap finding by the party rogue to determine (or perhaps disable) the trap. Per the OP this was a trap so there should be some method that it can be found and disabled, reasonably. [/QUOTE]

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