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If faith in yourself is enough to get power, do we need Wizards and Warlocks etc?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9168371" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>It's worth noting, Investiture is not truly "borrowed" power. It's more like "sent" power. The TL;DR of it is that after some kind of ritual (which <em>can</em> be conducted by the deity alone, but this requires extra mojo and is something they do only <em>very</em> rarely), the person receiving Investiture gets a little seed of divine power. It's not much--so as to not run afoul of the Primal Ban which keeps both deities and primordials out of the mortal realm--but enough to power divine stuff. Taking the power back is very difficult, maybe even impossible, once it's given--to the best of my knowledge there isn't an equivalent de-Investiture ritual to remove it. Once it's given, it's given permanently, the recipient would have to <em>die</em> to lose it.</p><p></p><p>So the deity doesn't have the ability to just pull the plug, the power is already "transferred" as it were. Instead, as noted, you have to send out other divine agents in order to track down rebellious ones and bring them in (or kill them.) That's where the Avenger fit into the broader narrative of 4e classes; the whole idea was that they were the covert executioners and "internal police" of the gods, hunting down any heresy or rebellion, which of course then brings in the <em>quis custodiet ipsos custodes</em> questions, amongst others. (And, of course, the Ezio Auditore connection can't be overlooked.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9168371, member: 6790260"] It's worth noting, Investiture is not truly "borrowed" power. It's more like "sent" power. The TL;DR of it is that after some kind of ritual (which [I]can[/I] be conducted by the deity alone, but this requires extra mojo and is something they do only [I]very[/I] rarely), the person receiving Investiture gets a little seed of divine power. It's not much--so as to not run afoul of the Primal Ban which keeps both deities and primordials out of the mortal realm--but enough to power divine stuff. Taking the power back is very difficult, maybe even impossible, once it's given--to the best of my knowledge there isn't an equivalent de-Investiture ritual to remove it. Once it's given, it's given permanently, the recipient would have to [I]die[/I] to lose it. So the deity doesn't have the ability to just pull the plug, the power is already "transferred" as it were. Instead, as noted, you have to send out other divine agents in order to track down rebellious ones and bring them in (or kill them.) That's where the Avenger fit into the broader narrative of 4e classes; the whole idea was that they were the covert executioners and "internal police" of the gods, hunting down any heresy or rebellion, which of course then brings in the [I]quis custodiet ipsos custodes[/I] questions, amongst others. (And, of course, the Ezio Auditore connection can't be overlooked.) [/QUOTE]
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