D&D General If faith in yourself is enough to get power, do we need Wizards and Warlocks etc?

[DarkCrisis]

So, a divine caster like a Cleric, Paladin, Druid etc don't need any actual divine link to power and can just use "The power of my inner belief )or love or friendship or self respect etc) to gain divine powers.

So why would a Warlock ever make a deal with Cthulu or a Fey Princess? Why would a Wizard spend thousands of hours pouring over spell books? They can just "Believe in themselves" hard enough and gain magical power. Cannot a Warlock just make an Oath to himself and gain spells? A Wizard Believe in magic so much he just finds it deep inside (but not like a Sorcerer who is just born with it!)?

Do Bards need colleges? Do Druids need a connection to nature? Do Monks need to train in the martial arts to gain a kamehameha?

Or can they just believe in the friends we made along the way and gain the power of love and self respect?

 

[Maxperson]

So, a divine caster like a Cleric, Paladin, Druid etc don't need any actual divine link to power and can just use "The power of my inner belief )or love or friendship or self respect etc) to gain divine powers.

So why would a Warlock ever make a deal with Cthulu or a Fey Princess? Why would a Wizard spend thousands of hours pouring over spell books? They can just "Believe in themselves" hard enough and gain magical power. Cannot a Warlock just make an Oath to himself and gain spells? A Wizard Believe in magic so much he just finds it deep inside (but not like a Sorcerer who is just born with it!)?

Do Bards need colleges? Do Druids need a connection to nature? Do Monks need to train in the martial arts to gain a kamehameha?

Or can they just believe in the friends we made along the way and gain the power of love and self respect?

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Because faith isn't something that you snap your fingers and appears. Very few people have that level of faith in anything, even themselves.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

That is a world building question and the asnwer is what ever you want/makes sense to you.

"The power of love, etc." on the part of the game designers is a way out of addressing all the countless ways power could be obtained and to sidestep the total lack of understanding of polytheism in the original design of D&D.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

Because faith isn't something that you snap your fingers and appears. Very few people have that level of faith in anything, even themselves.

This also.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Nope, we don't need clerics. Only warlocks. Including the Selflock.

Also, yes, of course delete the wizard.

 

[aco175]

Huey Lewis once said: But I like @Maxperson reasons better.

You don't need money, don't take fame
Don't need no credit card to ride this train
It's strong and it's sudden and it's cruel sometimes
But it might just save your life
That's the power of love
That's the power of love

 

[Scribe]

Just one of those things that without the work of world building falls apart.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Huey Lewis once said: But I like @Maxperson reasons better.

You don't need money, don't take fame
Don't need no credit card to ride this train
It's strong and it's sudden and it's cruel sometimes
But it might just save your life
That's the power of love
That's the power of love

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Because faith isn't something that you snap your fingers and appears. Very few people have that level of faith in anything, even themselves.

What are you doing at the mirror?

.....casting a spell.

 

[aco175]