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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9168691" data-attributes="member: 2209">I'd quibble a bit here.The rules for 3.5 ex-clerics say"A cleric who grossly violates the code of conduct required by his god (generally by acting in ways opposed to the god’s alignment or purposes) loses all spells and class features, except for armor and shield proficiencies and proficiency with simple weapons."So while clerical spellcasting is tied to not grossly violating the code of conduct, it does not have to be an instant active deific surveillance state.To me it more implies a type of geasa type of situation tied to clerical casting, an automatic thing outside of the god's direct control, not active intervention by the deity. A deity could take actions on their own such as intervening to take action against a wayward champion but this seems a bit different.The implications for story purposes are mostly the same though, grossly violative stuff means no casting so no really corrupt priests in the good Pelorian hierarchy.It would allow a number of schisms and heresies to exist though as grossly violating a code of conduct can be a high bar depending on the specific code which can vary significantly. 3.0 Deities and Demigods gave gods fairly focused omniscient sight into their specific portfolio areas of concern, so there is a separate deific surveillance state going on.</blockquote>