Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
If the characters are super optimized should the monsters be boosted too?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Lord Vangarel" data-source="post: 6661832" data-attributes="member: 223"><p>We've been playing 5E for a year now and one thing I'm starting to notice is the characters as they reach mid upper levels are starting to blast through monsters like a hot knife through butter.</p><p></p><p>To give a bit of background the characters are fairly optimized but only in so far as taking the feats available to them, having pretty good stats, and well above average hit points.</p><p></p><p>Has anyone else noticed that the monsters in the Monster Manual seem a little underpowered?</p><p></p><p>As an example last night the characters were due to fight an adult Green dragon, and given previous recent experience I decided to boost it by giving it two young dragons as a boost. Anyway the end result was that the party blitzed all three and an npc spellcaster and the only character really in any danger during the encounter was the party wizard due to lower AC and hit points.</p><p></p><p>Now it's not just dragons but this is especially relevant as dragons are supposed to be the big uber bad guys in the game however they're not. Dragons are now skirmishers having to cut and run at every opportunity. If the dragon stays at range it gets blitzed by range attacks (Sharp Shooter is just mad) and ranged spells. If it engages in a melee fight it lasts 2-3 rounds before dying (Great Weapon Master is equally mad).</p><p></p><p>Am I missing something or should I be adjusting monsters to fit the optimized characters?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Vangarel, post: 6661832, member: 223"] We've been playing 5E for a year now and one thing I'm starting to notice is the characters as they reach mid upper levels are starting to blast through monsters like a hot knife through butter. To give a bit of background the characters are fairly optimized but only in so far as taking the feats available to them, having pretty good stats, and well above average hit points. Has anyone else noticed that the monsters in the Monster Manual seem a little underpowered? As an example last night the characters were due to fight an adult Green dragon, and given previous recent experience I decided to boost it by giving it two young dragons as a boost. Anyway the end result was that the party blitzed all three and an npc spellcaster and the only character really in any danger during the encounter was the party wizard due to lower AC and hit points. Now it's not just dragons but this is especially relevant as dragons are supposed to be the big uber bad guys in the game however they're not. Dragons are now skirmishers having to cut and run at every opportunity. If the dragon stays at range it gets blitzed by range attacks (Sharp Shooter is just mad) and ranged spells. If it engages in a melee fight it lasts 2-3 rounds before dying (Great Weapon Master is equally mad). Am I missing something or should I be adjusting monsters to fit the optimized characters? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
If the characters are super optimized should the monsters be boosted too?
Top