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If you use thunderstep but teleport less than 10 feet do you take damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8579155" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Teleportation moves you from one place to another without crossing the intermediate space (in particular because you do not choose the path that you take when teleporting). Because teleportation fails within the sphere, you cannot appear there, full stop. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And as it fails as a destination point within the sphere, it simply fails. You have no destination, no path, so you simply don't move.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The teleportation fails. The caster does not end up anywhere, because he is not moving along any path. There is only a departure and arrival point. Since there is no arrival, there is simply no departure.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, no-one says it does. But you would have a difficult time proving that it does not, try it. Show me where it says that it does not fold space.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that other spells do something is certainly not a proof that another spell does not do the same thing. It's actually more an indication that it does.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, a gate spell does not really fold space, since it is also between planes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Prove it. Show me where it says that you cross the space. It does not, and in particular, there is no choice of a path to cross it. This is 5e, and spells only do what they say they do. Does the spell say that you "instantly cross the intervening space"? No, all it says is that it instantly transports you. There is no mention of intervening space.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no cutting. There is no path. Show me where the spell says that there is a path. There is ONLY a departure and a destination. If there is no destination, there is no teleportation, at all. As said in antimagic field, the teleportation fails. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Antimagic field does not mention a spell. It just says that teleportation (not teleport, the spell) fails in the sphere when the destination is in the sphere.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Prove it. Show me where the string is in the spell description.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He does not move. There is no path, no string, just a departure point and a destination point, since that one is within an antimagic field, the teleportation fails, and the spell, although successfully cast, fails. Again, very clear in Xanathar in the section about invalid spell targets. Your target destination is invalid, since an antimagic field causes teleportation to FAIL when the destination is within the field. So "nothing happens to that target, but if you used a spell slot to cast the spell, the slot is still expended."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8579155, member: 7032025"] Teleportation moves you from one place to another without crossing the intermediate space (in particular because you do not choose the path that you take when teleporting). Because teleportation fails within the sphere, you cannot appear there, full stop. And as it fails as a destination point within the sphere, it simply fails. You have no destination, no path, so you simply don't move. The teleportation fails. The caster does not end up anywhere, because he is not moving along any path. There is only a departure and arrival point. Since there is no arrival, there is simply no departure. First, no-one says it does. But you would have a difficult time proving that it does not, try it. Show me where it says that it does not fold space. The fact that other spells do something is certainly not a proof that another spell does not do the same thing. It's actually more an indication that it does. Moreover, a gate spell does not really fold space, since it is also between planes. Prove it. Show me where it says that you cross the space. It does not, and in particular, there is no choice of a path to cross it. This is 5e, and spells only do what they say they do. Does the spell say that you "instantly cross the intervening space"? No, all it says is that it instantly transports you. There is no mention of intervening space. There is no cutting. There is no path. Show me where the spell says that there is a path. There is ONLY a departure and a destination. If there is no destination, there is no teleportation, at all. As said in antimagic field, the teleportation fails. Antimagic field does not mention a spell. It just says that teleportation (not teleport, the spell) fails in the sphere when the destination is in the sphere. Prove it. Show me where the string is in the spell description. He does not move. There is no path, no string, just a departure point and a destination point, since that one is within an antimagic field, the teleportation fails, and the spell, although successfully cast, fails. Again, very clear in Xanathar in the section about invalid spell targets. Your target destination is invalid, since an antimagic field causes teleportation to FAIL when the destination is within the field. So "nothing happens to that target, but if you used a spell slot to cast the spell, the slot is still expended." [/QUOTE]
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