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If you use thunderstep but teleport less than 10 feet do you take damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="chaochou" data-source="post: 8585755" data-attributes="member: 99817"><p>No there are two things - there is a teleport and then there is a boom.</p><p></p><p>You are artificially dividing the timing of the teleport into two things. They are one thing - you move from one place to another <em>instantly</em>. You are in place A and as you stop being in place A you are in place B. There is no inbetween.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise show me the rule that says where you are during this inbetween time that you claim exists. You can't, you can only post fanciful speculation.</p><p></p><p>You want to claim that because the word 'disappear' is used to describe teleport, that you can shoehorn a gap you've invented into the teleport, such that you don't move instantly - you want to claim that you appear later, at some indeterminate time according to rules not written anywhere.</p><p></p><p>You want to claim that you teleport, but without using what's written about teleport, except when it suits your purpose to claim that you must reappear.</p><p></p><p>However, in contradiction to your claim that you must reappear, the spell actually only says there must be a space for another creature moving with you to reappear in. But that could be in 25 years, or 200 years or 450,000 years time. The only reference to the timing is in the teleport spell, and that says its instant. Not a bit later, not sometime after anything bad which might have happened has gone away, but instant. A to B, seperated by exactly zero time.</p><p></p><p>After A and B happen, which both happen at T=0, then we get a boom. It says in the spell - after you disappear, which is also after you reappear, since those are seperated by no time.</p><p></p><p>It's all there. This is the absolute straightforward reading of the rule. It's even clear in the wording that 'disappear' is a descriptive continuation of the teleportation. The reason it is used is because the movement can be seen as events which are seperated by distance. But there is no support in the rules anywhere to suggest they are seperated by time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chaochou, post: 8585755, member: 99817"] No there are two things - there is a teleport and then there is a boom. You are artificially dividing the timing of the teleport into two things. They are one thing - you move from one place to another [I]instantly[/I]. You are in place A and as you stop being in place A you are in place B. There is no inbetween. Otherwise show me the rule that says where you are during this inbetween time that you claim exists. You can't, you can only post fanciful speculation. You want to claim that because the word 'disappear' is used to describe teleport, that you can shoehorn a gap you've invented into the teleport, such that you don't move instantly - you want to claim that you appear later, at some indeterminate time according to rules not written anywhere. You want to claim that you teleport, but without using what's written about teleport, except when it suits your purpose to claim that you must reappear. However, in contradiction to your claim that you must reappear, the spell actually only says there must be a space for another creature moving with you to reappear in. But that could be in 25 years, or 200 years or 450,000 years time. The only reference to the timing is in the teleport spell, and that says its instant. Not a bit later, not sometime after anything bad which might have happened has gone away, but instant. A to B, seperated by exactly zero time. After A and B happen, which both happen at T=0, then we get a boom. It says in the spell - after you disappear, which is also after you reappear, since those are seperated by no time. It's all there. This is the absolute straightforward reading of the rule. It's even clear in the wording that 'disappear' is a descriptive continuation of the teleportation. The reason it is used is because the movement can be seen as events which are seperated by distance. But there is no support in the rules anywhere to suggest they are seperated by time. [/QUOTE]
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