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If you use thunderstep but teleport less than 10 feet do you take damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8588675" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Again, from the rules, so that at least I have some RAW support.: "Many spells are instantaneous. The spell harms, heals, creates, or alters a creature or an object in a way that can’t be dispelled, because <strong><u>its magic exists only for <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">an instant</span></u></strong>."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I'm trying to have some people shed their pre-conceptions and force others to use their interpretation, which relies not on RAW but on their own personal principles.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because the spell says that the first thing that happens after the disappearance (not the teleport, the disappearance), is the boom, it's immediately after.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The rules only say that spells with an "instantaneous" duration happen in an instant. The rules NEVER say that there is no gap, so I don't say so either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And again, by saying this, you are trying to force the fact that there is no gap between the disappearance and the appearance in a teleport, which is NOT what the rules say. The rules ONLY say that the teleportation takes "an instant".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I'm applying the spell as written, which says that after the disappearance, what IMMEDIATELY happens is the boom. Not the reappearance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good, then we are in agreement, real earth physics do NOT need to happen in the fantasy world of D&D. The rules do NOT mandate this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, but they also don't mention that there is no gap. As explained above, it takes "an instant". So a Star Trek teleportation is according to the RAW, it lasts only an instant, but not zero time, which is something else entirely.</p><p></p><p>Note that I'm not saying that there has to be a gap, it could also be that the disappearance takes an instant and the appearance as well, on top of a gap of just an instant. Lots of possibilities, and the rules don't forbid or mandate any of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As the RAW say nothing on the subject, saying that there is no gap is actually adding something to the RAW.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Something is happening in between (the boom), so there IS some sort of gap.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In an instant, in D&D rules. Not in zero time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The possibility is open in ALL teleportation spells, since they ONLY say that it takes "an instant", not zero time. But the suspicion is higher with thunder step because something DOES happen, the boom.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not exactly. First, immediately does not mean "zero time either". Second, "instantly" is not used, "instantaneous" is used with the definition of the rules, which means "in an instant". Not zero time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the spell was meant to damage the caster if he did not go far enough, it would have mentioned that. A spell does what it says it does. In this case, it cuts both ways, you see.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is your very personal interpretation. I prefer to think that the writers used a word to say EXACTLY what it says it means, just the disappearance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And then maybe they did ? Maybe the authors of the most successful TTRPG in history were more clever than you or I and anticipated this reading, while still leaving the spell open to interpretation? Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, the spell stands as written, with the word disappearance just meaning "disappearance" because it makes perfect sense as well...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8588675, member: 7032025"] Again, from the rules, so that at least I have some RAW support.: "Many spells are instantaneous. The spell harms, heals, creates, or alters a creature or an object in a way that can’t be dispelled, because [B][U]its magic exists only for [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]an instant[/COLOR][/U][/B]." No, I'm trying to have some people shed their pre-conceptions and force others to use their interpretation, which relies not on RAW but on their own personal principles. Because the spell says that the first thing that happens after the disappearance (not the teleport, the disappearance), is the boom, it's immediately after. The rules only say that spells with an "instantaneous" duration happen in an instant. The rules NEVER say that there is no gap, so I don't say so either. And again, by saying this, you are trying to force the fact that there is no gap between the disappearance and the appearance in a teleport, which is NOT what the rules say. The rules ONLY say that the teleportation takes "an instant". No, I'm applying the spell as written, which says that after the disappearance, what IMMEDIATELY happens is the boom. Not the reappearance. Good, then we are in agreement, real earth physics do NOT need to happen in the fantasy world of D&D. The rules do NOT mandate this. No, but they also don't mention that there is no gap. As explained above, it takes "an instant". So a Star Trek teleportation is according to the RAW, it lasts only an instant, but not zero time, which is something else entirely. Note that I'm not saying that there has to be a gap, it could also be that the disappearance takes an instant and the appearance as well, on top of a gap of just an instant. Lots of possibilities, and the rules don't forbid or mandate any of them. As the RAW say nothing on the subject, saying that there is no gap is actually adding something to the RAW. Something is happening in between (the boom), so there IS some sort of gap. In an instant, in D&D rules. Not in zero time. The possibility is open in ALL teleportation spells, since they ONLY say that it takes "an instant", not zero time. But the suspicion is higher with thunder step because something DOES happen, the boom. Not exactly. First, immediately does not mean "zero time either". Second, "instantly" is not used, "instantaneous" is used with the definition of the rules, which means "in an instant". Not zero time. If the spell was meant to damage the caster if he did not go far enough, it would have mentioned that. A spell does what it says it does. In this case, it cuts both ways, you see. That is your very personal interpretation. I prefer to think that the writers used a word to say EXACTLY what it says it means, just the disappearance. And then maybe they did ? Maybe the authors of the most successful TTRPG in history were more clever than you or I and anticipated this reading, while still leaving the spell open to interpretation? Do you have any proof of what you are saying ? Otherwise, the spell stands as written, with the word disappearance just meaning "disappearance" because it makes perfect sense as well... [/QUOTE]
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