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If you use thunderstep but teleport less than 10 feet do you take damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="plisnithus8" data-source="post: 8986800" data-attributes="member: 6870553"><p>I accept that there is a caveat to the rules that says the DM can optionally make up their own rules. For clarity in my discourse, I'll refer to these unpublished rules as "local" in contrast to 5e rulebooks as default "published." Local rules could include anything from previous editions, Blades in the Dark, or complete home-brew. I don't see a point in debating anything in local territory.</p><p>Neither would it be worthwhile debating that DM can just forego looking up what is published to speed the game along.</p><p>The issue I have is with the idea that previous edition rules should be considered at all with published 5e rules, especially that it is the intent of the 5e creators that anything that is not covered in 5e published rules can be filled in with rules from other editions.</p><p></p><p>You asked for proof that the rules for 5e didn't include previous editions; Sage Advice says there are no 5e rulebooks before 2014.</p><p>Here's another: In Mike Mearls letter included with the D&D Next playtest, he says, "In many cases, we decided to excise a rule or element of the game to see if it really is a key component of playing D&D." The word "excise" is a strong indicator that the creators of 5e did not intend for old rules that aren't mentioned in 5e to be considered going forward.</p><p>The absence of something from a new edition can be as informative to the official rules as changing or adding to a rule.</p><p></p><p>If previous edition rules were allowed, how would that even work? Say there is a rule about plane teleportation in 3e that was different than 3.5 or 4e but wasn't included in 5e. Which rule should be used? Do you have to look through every edition to figure out which ones are contradictory? What seems to make things much more complicated. Published 5e doesn't explicitly state that Elves are not a class, but why open the door to such debates? </p><p></p><p>I hear DMs all the time tell players that if they are proficient in a skill, they can make a roll. (actually, most of the time they use "trained" instead of "proficient"). That is just an idea from previous editions that the DM either doesn't remember is not published in 5e or just likes better. Either is fine as a local rule, but that doesn't make it official to published 5e. </p><p></p><p>In fact, the old rules seems to be a large factor why there is such debate regarding Thunderstep since in this edition the teleportation-involves-another-plane seems to have been excised.</p><p>Leave out old rules, then there is less complexity leading to argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="plisnithus8, post: 8986800, member: 6870553"] I accept that there is a caveat to the rules that says the DM can optionally make up their own rules. For clarity in my discourse, I'll refer to these unpublished rules as "local" in contrast to 5e rulebooks as default "published." Local rules could include anything from previous editions, Blades in the Dark, or complete home-brew. I don't see a point in debating anything in local territory. Neither would it be worthwhile debating that DM can just forego looking up what is published to speed the game along. The issue I have is with the idea that previous edition rules should be considered at all with published 5e rules, especially that it is the intent of the 5e creators that anything that is not covered in 5e published rules can be filled in with rules from other editions. You asked for proof that the rules for 5e didn't include previous editions; Sage Advice says there are no 5e rulebooks before 2014. Here's another: In Mike Mearls letter included with the D&D Next playtest, he says, "In many cases, we decided to excise a rule or element of the game to see if it really is a key component of playing D&D." The word "excise" is a strong indicator that the creators of 5e did not intend for old rules that aren't mentioned in 5e to be considered going forward. The absence of something from a new edition can be as informative to the official rules as changing or adding to a rule. If previous edition rules were allowed, how would that even work? Say there is a rule about plane teleportation in 3e that was different than 3.5 or 4e but wasn't included in 5e. Which rule should be used? Do you have to look through every edition to figure out which ones are contradictory? What seems to make things much more complicated. Published 5e doesn't explicitly state that Elves are not a class, but why open the door to such debates? I hear DMs all the time tell players that if they are proficient in a skill, they can make a roll. (actually, most of the time they use "trained" instead of "proficient"). That is just an idea from previous editions that the DM either doesn't remember is not published in 5e or just likes better. Either is fine as a local rule, but that doesn't make it official to published 5e. In fact, the old rules seems to be a large factor why there is such debate regarding Thunderstep since in this edition the teleportation-involves-another-plane seems to have been excised. Leave out old rules, then there is less complexity leading to argument. [/QUOTE]
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