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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8746363" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Yes, this. So, it is possible that a DM may deem success possible, but nearly impossible, and accordingly call for a DC 30 check. If the character being asked to make the check has less than a +10 to the relevant ability/proficiency combination, they won’t be able to get a total of 30 even on a natural 20.Now, a savvy DM might in some cases be able to anticipate that, for example, their party of 1st level characters won’t be able to hit a DC 30, even if they rolled for stats (or otherwise used a more-generous-than-standard ability score generation method) and have a 20 in the relevant ability and expertise in the relevant proficiency, and therefore decide not to call for a check if the task is nearly impossible. But with tasks that they deem only Vey Hard and/or PCs 5th level and higher, it’ll definitely come up from time to time. That said, I’m not real worried. At least at my table, such high DC checks don’t come up often, and when they do, there’s only a 5% chance of a natural 20 coming up. So I doubt I’m even going to notice the difference.</blockquote>